Wanted: New Term for 'Pre-H.E.'
Can someone help me to come up with a better term for 'pre-H.E.'?
How about 'T.I.' for terribly inefficient? Or XJ-S Series I? Or 'BBC' for black bumper car?
How about 'T.I.' for terribly inefficient? Or XJ-S Series I? Or 'BBC' for black bumper car?
Before I had a V12 I really thought I would care about gas mileage. Once I learned how to run an XJ-S V12 through the gears manually, I learned that I really don't care. The only thing I use the gas mileage for is as an indicator of whether the engine runs right.
At 2000 miles per year, I'm not bothered. At 15k miles, I would be. Not so much about the cost, but more about the carbon emissions. Anyway, I think these cars are best used as second cars anyway, for so many reasons.
I'm confused. Why do you call the pre-HE "black bumper" cars? As far as I know, they all had black bumpers right up until the late facelifts, circa 1994.
I'd probably called the pre-HEs "Flatheads" myself.
I'd probably called the pre-HEs "Flatheads" myself.
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The pre HEs (LEs, as Steve so wittily suggested) had large black bumpers with no chrome blades on them. In my view, the large black bumpers, spoil the look of the car and argue visually with the innate delicacy of the design.
Last edited by Greg in France; Feb 6, 2018 at 07:29 AM.
I like flat head. But the H.E. has several names... like May Head. I guess that makes the flat heads April? H.E. Is also called Fireball Head but, they’re all fireballs if you don’t change the injector hoses! So many terrible options.
Our PreHE S2 Sedan did 450000kms in 18 years, and the XJS HE did 265000 in the same time period.
Both daily drivers, as have been ALL my Jags since 1968, and distances here are HUGE.
Fuel it is a requirement for maximum enjoyment, and what better enjoyment than a V12 at 5500RPM on the open road, hour after hour.
As for the Topic, not much into names etc. The S2 was known as Sir Arthur, after the original dignitary that owned the car before us. The XJS, simply, The Red One.
"Flat head" kind of slides off the tongue better than some of the other suggestions.
I suspect that possibly it's not a good day for mother earth when I idle all 10 at the same time.
My post was ambiguous. I meant that the in-chrome-bladed black bumpers argued with the car's delicate lines. I find the chrome bladed HE bumpers far better.
Greg
As far as names goes I like flathead best.
Last edited by Andreas Schmieg; Feb 6, 2018 at 03:53 PM.
Agreed, and I reckon "fear factor".
Too many see this V12, and the car its shoved in as frail, oops.
Then the fact sooooooo many V12's are NOT running properly, and this dulls the experience seriously.
A V12 that is ON SONG, and UP TO SNUFF, as some say, is a thing of beauty and sends chills up the spine.
Mine regularly traverse dirt toads, corrugations, stones, the odd Wombat, and bull dust holes, and thats summer in 45c temps, and they survive well.
I suppose its MY Ozzie attitude at its best. FAITH, ya gotta have FAITH.
The current S Types, not so good in those conditions, so I am relooking at another X300R, or maybe a S2 V12 Daimler.
A quick release on the bad leg would have an XJS back in the fleet in less than a heartbeat, but medical technology is still working on that one.
Too many see this V12, and the car its shoved in as frail, oops.
Then the fact sooooooo many V12's are NOT running properly, and this dulls the experience seriously.
A V12 that is ON SONG, and UP TO SNUFF, as some say, is a thing of beauty and sends chills up the spine.
Mine regularly traverse dirt toads, corrugations, stones, the odd Wombat, and bull dust holes, and thats summer in 45c temps, and they survive well.
I suppose its MY Ozzie attitude at its best. FAITH, ya gotta have FAITH.
The current S Types, not so good in those conditions, so I am relooking at another X300R, or maybe a S2 V12 Daimler.
A quick release on the bad leg would have an XJS back in the fleet in less than a heartbeat, but medical technology is still working on that one.











