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Old 07-13-2019, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Tervuren
That 2JZ Vette sure looks and sounds nice.

Jagtoes, aside from access to aftermarket modifications, I'm saying I just do not see the reason to swap one V8 for another V8.

And if you do aftermarket modifications to bump the power of the LS, you hit the same transmission limit that the 5.0L XKR faces.
Yep the transmission could be the problem but I would think it could be fixed. As for the conversions the guys that came to me to have their's done usually told me they loved their Jags but wanted more power with available low cost replacement parts. As we all know Jag resale history is a bargain for those who want a nice exotic. Just got to do a parts price comparison of a 5.0L XKR engine vs a GM LS. As I said it was just a sky blue exercise.
 
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Old 07-13-2019, 08:32 AM
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This was the last one I did wit a TPI Corvette and a 700R4 transmission. Was a good cruiser.

 
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I don't know what this means!!

Hello Al, this is the sub section for the aluminum chassis X150.

The XK8 is a different model and chassis, look for the X100 section.
 
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Old 07-13-2019, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jagtoes
As for the conversions the guys that came to me to have their's done usually told me they loved their Jags but wanted more power with available low cost replacement parts.
Indeed there's a practicality to this, especially for anyone racing, the ability to get replacement parts in time for the next weekend is a big deal, not to mention the cost since they might go through multiples of some parts in a season. Is nice to be able to order go-fast parts from the Summit catalog or get stock parts at your local retail auto parts store. Also advantageous is the ability to just buy a brand new crate engine and not have to mess with used engines and/or rebuilding and plus then you're not commandeering a date-coded motor that some Corvette restorer would love to have.
 

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Originally Posted by BigAlBre
I don't know what this means!!

Hello Al, this is the sub section for the aluminum chassis X150.

The XK8 is a different model and chassis, look for the X100 section.
You are not in the section for XK8's.

This is the section for XK8's.

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xk8-xkr-x100-17/
 
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I think the VVT would be the major hiccup on the AJ X150's. Otherwise, swap the throttle body and every other wired item onto your whatever fits V8 and go with it. I think the 5.0's would be a train wreck due to the direct injection timing. I assume the pulse width would be way to short for a normal 45psi fed intake injector to flow the required amount of fuel
 
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Old 07-14-2019, 08:16 AM
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I think the VVT would be the major hiccup on the AJ X150's. Otherwise, swap the throttle body and every other wired item onto your whatever fits V8 and go with it. I think the 5.0's would be a train wreck due to the direct injection timing. I assume the pulse width would be way to short for a normal 45psi fed intake injector to flow the required amount of fuel
There are also sensors that feel the vibration from combustion are there not?

Different engine block, how would you translate that?

It'd take a major math nerd more so than traditional mechanic skills.
 
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Old 07-14-2019, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Ranchero50
I think the VVT would be the major hiccup on the AJ X150's. Otherwise, swap the throttle body and every other wired item onto your whatever fits V8 and go with it. I think the 5.0's would be a train wreck due to the direct injection timing. I assume the pulse width would be way to short for a normal 45psi fed intake injector to flow the required amount of fuel
I thought the latest version of the LT series had VVT and is a direct FI inject system.
 

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I think the project is doabe, but expensive and time consuming. I recommend buying a running Corvette donor salvage car, complete except for body parts, and use virtually everything from the Corvette, including transmission, braking system, rear differential, electronics, wiring and even instruments including ECU, navigation system and audio head unit.
You'd have a Corvette drivetrain/chassis (sic) on a Jaguar body.
 
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Originally Posted by Rey
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You'd have a Corvette drivetrain/chassis (sic) on a Jaguar body.
So, a nice looking car that's sort of gross underneath.
 
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In today's day and age, when electric is all the rage.
Doing a push rod gender change would be like stuffing your underwear on the Isle of Lesbos
 

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Originally Posted by Rey
I think the project is doabe, but expensive and time consuming. I recommend buying a running Corvette donor salvage car, complete except for body parts, and use virtually everything from the Corvette, including transmission, braking system, rear differential, electronics, wiring and even instruments including ECU, navigation system and audio head unit.
You'd have a Corvette drivetrain/chassis (sic) on a Jaguar body.
The problem with this, the Corvette puts the gearbox in the back of the car.

I'm not sure the XK chassis has the structure to accommodate this.

Update the rear subframe, update the rear suspension, it'd for sure improve the weight balance of the car to have the Corvette drivetrain.

Because the 'Vette engine is lower and more compact, you might also be able to fit it lower and further back, but I do not know.

There really are not enough issues with the AJV8 as of today where I would want to do the swap. If an engine did fail just swap in another AJV8.
 

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