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Old 07-27-2018, 06:53 PM
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As far as I can tell, these oils meet the older Jag oil spec (WSS-M2C925A , not the newer, which Jag dealers/Castrol (STJLR.51.5122) sell. I have no idea what the improvements are addresses n the new Jag spec.
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Old 07-27-2018, 07:54 PM
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if you use 5W-20 it needs to meet the Ford Spec WSS--M2C925A or Jaguar Land Rover Spec STJLR.03.5004. If you use 0W-20 then it needs to meet STJLR.51.51.22
 
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Old 07-27-2018, 08:08 PM
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Just picked up enough 0W for the next change so I'm set to watch how this all pans out. Come on, don't stop keep the thread going.
 
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I am confused, why are there just 5 flavors for 0 - 20 synthetic motor oils; I count at least nine major brands being sold on Amazon and several car manufacturer brands. Plus some other brands like Motul.

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Old 07-28-2018, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
For Fuch's sakes guys.
Did not even bring up Fuchs Motor Oil which was the 5th choice as I knew the group would snicker.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fuchs-TITAN...2/292644919559
Have my eye on Jacco
Cant find Castrol- this is serious
Those with Porsche's or VW's of a certain vintage pronounce it more like foosch.

Fuchs is fox.
 
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BlkC4t_XK14
I am confused, why are there just 5 flavors for 0 - 20 synthetic motor oils; I count at least nine major brands being sold on Amazon
In the past viscosity was the only difference in one oil vs the other.
Today in specialty engines viscosity has become almost meaningless.
Because they are able to do more specific things than just flow.
So they formulate specific oils for specific engines now.
Actually the car company is now able to design the engine and the corresponding oil.
 
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Old 07-29-2018, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pwpacp
Just picked up enough 0W for the next change so I'm set
Was it around $10 a quart. Was it a hassle, i.e we are going to have to put it into bottles for you etc.

I pulled the trigger on Ravenol. It had excellent specs and technical details that I ran past someone.
I was surprised fellas to see that there was more info on this oil from Jaguar owners on amazon than here.
Not surprised that Ravenol had more information to offer than Castrol

Yes the Ravenol works out to be the same price or more than Castrol oil from the dealer.
However, I am not the kind to ever allow myself to be held hostage and bent over a barrel.
I am happy to pay more for convenience and liberty, crying shame that a patriot is forced to buy German.

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Stuart S
When the engine has warmed up to normal operating temperature...
I think you have answered your own question there.
 
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Old 08-01-2018, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
Yes the Ravenol works out to be the same price or more than Castrol oil from the dealer.
However, I am not the kind to ever allow myself to be held hostage and bent over a barrel.
I am happy to pay more for convenience and liberty, crying shame that a patriot is forced to buy German.
Hmmm. Nose. Face. Cut. Spite. I'm certain that Castrol shares will plummet at this news.
 
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
Was it around $10 a quart. Was it a hassle, i.e we are going to have to put it into bottles for you etc.

I pulled the trigger on Ravenol. It had excellent specs and technical details that I ran past someone.
I was surprised fellas to see that there was more info on this oil from Jaguar owners on amazon than here.
Not surprised that Ravenol had more information to offer than Castrol

Yes the Ravenol works out to be the same price or more than Castrol oil from the dealer.
However, I am not the kind to ever allow myself to be held hostage and bent over a barrel.
I am happy to pay more for convenience and liberty, crying shame that a patriot is forced to buy German.
Does Ravenol oil meet the Jag spec for SAE 0W-20, STJLR.51.5122?

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
Was it around $10 a quart. Was it a hassle, i.e we are going to have to put it into bottles for you etc.

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Yup, less than $10/ea qt but they had plenty on hand and seemed quite pleased to sell to me. I'm not local to any dealerships so I plan ahead to accomodate the next change when visiting the grand kids in Memphis TN. Were it not for that "convenience" or should the dealership not helpful I'd be digging for an alternative of some type as well.
 
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Originally Posted by wrair
Does Ravenol oil meet the Jag spec for SAE 0W-20, STJLR.51.5122?
Yes it does specifically....

I should have said it does so Officially
And want to share with all that might be forced to look for an alternative, either of the old spec or the new spec.
Its the ONLY approval it has, and lucky for us, its from Jaguar.
Says so on the front of the bottle (reassuring) and in the description https://www.ravenol.de/en/products/u...ecs-0w-20.html
This is a pic from my bottle, I went with 5-20w due to having a lot of the Castrol 5-20 on hand that I needed to finish. On my bottle it further meets the old spec too and got that approval. All very reassuring.


 

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Old 08-01-2018, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pwpacp
Yup, less than $10/ea qt but they had plenty on hand and seemed quite pleased to sell to me. I'm not local to any dealerships so I plan ahead to accomodate the next change when visiting the grand kids in Memphis TN. Were it not for that "convenience" or should the dealership not helpful I'd be digging for an alternative of some type as well.
Thanks.
I was in Memphis 2 weeks ago, for the first time in years. Will just start getting my oil there.
BTW $10 or less is a very good price for any oil made from this type of synthetic.
 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:25 PM
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It was $9.95/qt at Bluff City Jaguar.
 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:51 PM
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I just noticed something that might be of value to some of you.

If you want to stay with the heavier old spec (5-20w) And you have a 5.0l. The Ravenol is actually better than Castrol.
Ravenol meets ILSAC GF-5 which addresses the shear caused by direct injection soot- i.e. longer timing chain life.
If the Castrol does its a mystery, I am holding a bloody bottle of it in my hand and there is no mention of the GF-5 rating.
They are so alarmingly obscure. The German oil goes on record to even state its POA ingredients, in Castrol it could be coconut oil for all we know and are told.
 
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Old 08-01-2018, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
Ravenol meets ILSAC GF-5 which addresses the shear caused by direct injection soot- i.e. longer timing chain life.
I am too lazy to Google, can you post executive summary on how GF-5 would reduce effects of DI carbon nanoparticles?


 
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I am too lazy to Google, can you post executive summary on how GF-5 would reduce effects of DI carbon nanoparticles?
Let me get this straight, you are too lazy and you want me to post an Executive Summary.
What do you think I am a pillock.
 
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Old 08-01-2018, 04:03 PM
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Here is a lazy person's read
 
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Originally Posted by jima
I think you have answered your own question there.
You must have known that I already knew that.
 
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Old 08-01-2018, 04:12 PM
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here is information that is not just marketing
https://studfiles.net/preview/1938903/
 
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