V e r y slow tank fillup at station
This happened to me at least 4 times in the last 3 years or so in my long driving holidays in Sicily and Italy. Stop at the petrol station, the attendant puts nozzle into tank and has to fill it very slowly as it starts to constantly cuts off, as if it's full. 'Very slowly' as in like 10 minutes for half a tank. On the rest of the stations, all's well. Any ideas apart from not going to Italy?
Cheers!
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I have the same problem - but only at one gas station here in Coburg/Bavaria and only with Super Plus.
With E10, E5 petrol no problem. The owner told me, that only my car has this problem - a answer you can believe, but you don´t have to.
15 minutes to fill 50 liters, 20 cars with angry drivers behind me and 0 degrees outside, thank you. Never been there after this answer.
With E10, E5 petrol no problem. The owner told me, that only my car has this problem - a answer you can believe, but you don´t have to.
15 minutes to fill 50 liters, 20 cars with angry drivers behind me and 0 degrees outside, thank you. Never been there after this answer.
My wife used to have a similar problem with her MB. It turned out to be the fuel overflow/vapor capture tank filling with sediment and requiring replacement. I have no idea if that applies to your vehicles or experience, but I thought I'd put it out there as a heads up for consideration.
My wife used to have a similar problem with her MB. It turned out to be the fuel overflow/vapor capture tank filling with sediment and requiring replacement. I have no idea if that applies to your vehicles or experience, but I thought I'd put it out there as a heads up for consideration.
What Hog said. The air return vapor line may well be clogged, seen that more than once. Some pumps are more sensitive than others and will shut down but check your line - you can blow it out with a air compressor. On my Porsche I had to hold the nozzle at an angle to get it to flow at full speed otherwise the vapors would slow it way down
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What Hog said. The air return vapor line may well be clogged, seen that more than once. Some pumps are more sensitive than others and will shut down but check your line - you can blow it out with a air compressor. On my Porsche I had to hold the nozzle at an angle to get it to flow at full speed otherwise the vapors would slow it way down
EJ - on the Jag I do not know where it is, most often it is right in the filler area next to the cap itself. you'll see a small black hole that is it. In fact if you put your finger over such a hole while filling it will immediately shut off your pump. I have not looked at the Jag yet perhaps someone will chime in shortly with better location advice.
EJ - on the Jag I do not know where it is, most often it is right in the filler area next to the cap itself. you'll see a small black hole that is it. In fact if you put your finger over such a hole while filling it will immediately shut off your pump. I have not looked at the Jag yet perhaps someone will chime in shortly with better location advice.
Second on the vapor return line. I had a car where the line linked and it would fuel very slowly. IIn that car the line was internal in the full nozzle and down into the tank. It was damaged during fuel take r&r.
Ok, from the manual:
FUEL LEVEL VENT VALVE (FLVV)
The main purpose of the FLVV is to control the fill volume of the tank. During filling, vapor is passed via the FLVV to the LVS. The vapor then passes from the LVS to the vent connection via a corrugated tube. The vent connection is connected to the charcoal canister which stores the fuel vapor. During filling, when the tank reaches its full level, the FLVV closes and prevents fuel vapor passing through to the LVS. This causes the pressure in the tank to rise which in turn causes the pump filling nozzle to turn off.
FUEL LEVEL VENT VALVE (FLVV)
The main purpose of the FLVV is to control the fill volume of the tank. During filling, vapor is passed via the FLVV to the LVS. The vapor then passes from the LVS to the vent connection via a corrugated tube. The vent connection is connected to the charcoal canister which stores the fuel vapor. During filling, when the tank reaches its full level, the FLVV closes and prevents fuel vapor passing through to the LVS. This causes the pressure in the tank to rise which in turn causes the pump filling nozzle to turn off.
Ok, from the manual:
FUEL LEVEL VENT VALVE (FLVV)
The main purpose of the FLVV is to control the fill volume of the tank. During filling, vapor is passed via the FLVV to the LVS. The vapor then passes from the LVS to the vent connection via a corrugated tube. The vent connection is connected to the charcoal canister which stores the fuel vapor. During filling, when the tank reaches its full level, the FLVV closes and prevents fuel vapor passing through to the LVS. This causes the pressure in the tank to rise which in turn causes the pump filling nozzle to turn off.
FUEL LEVEL VENT VALVE (FLVV)
The main purpose of the FLVV is to control the fill volume of the tank. During filling, vapor is passed via the FLVV to the LVS. The vapor then passes from the LVS to the vent connection via a corrugated tube. The vent connection is connected to the charcoal canister which stores the fuel vapor. During filling, when the tank reaches its full level, the FLVV closes and prevents fuel vapor passing through to the LVS. This causes the pressure in the tank to rise which in turn causes the pump filling nozzle to turn off.
What Hog said. The air return vapor line may well be clogged, seen that more than once. Some pumps are more sensitive than others and will shut down but check your line - you can blow it out with a air compressor. On my Porsche I had to hold the nozzle at an angle to get it to flow at full speed otherwise the vapors would slow it way down
I have this problem on occasion (including yesterday) but it seems to happen at the same gas station most of the time. I would guess the sensitivity of the nozzles at that station is the cause. I gave up after 1/2 a tank and took off.
Last edited by tberg; Apr 27, 2016 at 09:38 AM.
The Vapor Line may be one issue. The other issues are very dirty gas filters that are installed at the gas pump itself. Unless the filling station changes the filters on a regular basis on the pumps, it will cause the gas to flow very slow from the gas pump.
This is why the flow of gas may change from one pump to another.
This is why the flow of gas may change from one pump to another.
This slow fill problem is a common one and not restricted to Jaguars. It can be instantly solved by simply pulling the filler nozzle out a bit so that air to the filler tube is not restricted. In other words, inserting the nozzle fully, up to its rubber shield, will very often result in the nozzle shutting off; pulling it out slightly will allow the flow of fuel to be restored.
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