My wife's 2007 XK convertible has had this problem going on 2 years now. Sadly, we do not have a garage to store our cars in, so we have no protective measures to use. I'm wondering if this is the drain holes under the convertible top "door" that opens when you put down the top. When the door rotates up, you can see the curb underneath, and at the front end on both sides, there is a drain hole with a rubber grommet and I assume a rubber tube attached to the underside of said grommet. I don't know where that tube drains to, I don't know for sure how it is attached, if it is attached to the car at the bottom of the tube somehow (which makes me not want to just pry it out and start pulling), and I don't know what it is called, so I wouldn't know what to buy as a replacement. I'm not even sure if that's the source of the leaks? But I will say, they were full of leaf and tree gunk, and I tried to dig all of the gunk out and run a coat hanger down the hole like you would clearing a sunroof drain.
I mean.... it COULD be the convertible top, but I don't think it is the window seals, because you never see water droplets running down the inside of the glass. Only a fog of moisture covering the inside glass from the interior humidity. Obviously not good for the leather...
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated on how to diagnose the problem.
George

 

I had something similar on my 07 but I also noticed some moisture on the window inside. I tracked it down by using a garden hose directed on it outside. It turned out both door windows were not really adjusted correctly and it also had terrible wind noise as well.
There is some detail in the work shop manual on adjustment. After I figured out how and adjusted them the problem went away. It was a PIA and took a whole day complete but most of that was the learning curve on learning adjustment direction.
I don't know if this is the same problem you are experiencing but I hope it helps.

 

Thanks for the post. Where would I go to learn about this adjustment of the windows?

 

Go to the workshop manual sticky at the top of this forum. I can't recall the pages but it should be in the 'body' section.

 

After readjusting the windows, I'd take a Rubber & Trim product and coat all your weatherstripping with it. Not only will the rubber look really nice, it will help with sealing.

 

First thing is to open the top and inspect all the rubber seals. Make sure they're clean, soft and pliable and check for any cracks or other damage. You may need to clean and lubricate the seals to restore softness and pliability, or replace them.

If all the rubber seals are OK and the top is properly aligned, then look for where it's leaking. The quickest, easiest, cleanest and driest way to find the exact spot where water is leaking into your car from is to use a smoke machine, either from the outside or inside or both. Most mechanics have one to find vacuum leaks in rubber engine hoses.

Water travels to the lowest point, so where you see water stains might not be the source of the leak.

Of course, you can do it the same way the factory does by simulating a monsoon. Have someone use a high pressure hose to spray all around the top while you're sitting inside. Just make sure you have enough towels to dry yourself off and the car before any water can bugger the electronics. Good luck with that!

 

I second the Smoke Generator. Those work GREAT for finding leaks quickly.

 

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I noticed condensation on the inside of my windows in my 2006S type R. Found water under back seat. And a little under front passenger carpet. And looking at the door seals I noticed a couple of places where it was torn on both front and rear door weatherstripping and I’m thinking the water that runs down the seal gets into the seal through the rips and runs down to the bottom of the weatherstripping by the bottom of the dood and leaks out onto the floor so I Used super glue to close the spots that were ripped.

 

2005 X150 XK Convertible (UK member) recently purchased and a new forum member

Hope it's ok asking additional questions re this thread....

I have got water accumulating in the boot around the space saver wheel. The main visible signs I can see are drops of water on the grill in the boot on the RHS that covers the convertible hood pump. I can also see water on the boot trim panel, at the top, on the RHS where the hole is to secure the boot trim, (fastener is missing). I think this is a long standing problem as it looks like someone has had the trim out as there are quite a few missing/broken clips


I took the rear seat out behind the drivers seat, (Right Hand Drive) and it is sodden wet but appears dry in the same place under the rear seat behind the front passenger.

The drivers seat belt was soaking wet today and when I pulled it fully out it was wet along it's length.

The car is dry in the front

Can anyone point me to the most likely cause in direct terms and for the convertible model XK.

I am particularly interested in location of drain holes and will be having a good look at the seals over the next few days.

Could it be coming in through the aerial or through the high level brake light/boot spoiler and is this a common area of water ingress.

When the hood is part open I can see that someone has applied some kind of sealant around the convertible rear deck hinge where it bolts to the vehicle body; again, is this a know area of water ingress. It is pitch black here now so I will take some photos of the hinge tomorrow and post.
I am new to the forum so apologies in advance if I have posted this in the wrong place.

Chris




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Chris,

Water travels to the lowest point before it drips off, so where you see the water puddles in your car may not be anywhere near where it's coming in. You can pinpoint that spot with a smoke machine as I suggested in Post #6, above. Or ...

Separation of the rear glass from the fabric top is a common problem that results from age, and often isn't apparent when it first starts to happen.

Roll up some towels and stuff them inside your car under the rear glass. If the towels get wet, you've found the source of the leak.

It's an easy, inexpensive DIY repair. See:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...p-97478/page7/

Stuart

 

Hi Stuart

I surmised that the water is coming in elsewhere and puddling in the boot and under the rear seat squab behind the drivers seat

i am suspecting the hood seals around The drivers side quarter window given the seat belt was saturated

i have taken the seat squabs and rear seat backs out of the car and am in process of removing the trim panel where the drivers seat belt goes through so I have a clear sight of any water ingress

I will check the rear window as suggested so thanks for that

once I can locate the ingress point/s I’ll set about solving the problem

can you tell me where the hood drains are located?

thanks for taking the time to reply

chris

 

Chris,

You may have multiple points where water enters your car. You can spend many hours of experimenting by trial and error, hit or miss, and locate an entry point. But after you've fixed it, what if water is still getting into your car?

If I had your problem, I'd have a smoke test done and mark each spot where smoke is coming out of the car. That's where water is coming in.

I don't know where the hood drains are located, but they should be in the Workshop Manual in the "Stickies" at the top of this Forum.

Stuart

 

Chris, please post up some pics, as even on the same side of the pond as you I've never seen a 2005 model x150

Have you tried a product called gummi pfledge to plump up the rubber seals? Used it for years and never a leak

 

Hi it is an early production of the 2006 XK that was actually built in December 2005 (number 84 off the production line), at the Castle Bromwich plant here in the UK, now sadly shut. It was used as a promotional car by Jaguar and there are a number of photos of the car on the internet that can be found by searching the registration number. I have no idea where these were taken.

 

I have sourced the leak into the boot and it is coming from the rear deck hinge mounting bracket.

I have removed all the trim and discovered one of the previous owners has had this issue before and has tried to remedy the problem by running horrendous sealant all around the boot aperture under the boot seal. It also appears someone has tried, very badly, to solve the problem by putting sealant all around the bracket after removing the bracket, (this is an assumption as I have noticed the bracket/hinge plate is held in place with pop rivets on the right hand side as opposed to clenched rivets on the left hand side

( I think the wet seat belt issue may have been as a result of the rear quarter window being left down by me inadvertently as I have not had a re-occurrence of this problem even though I am still getting water into the boot.

I am not sure what is involved in removing the rear deck to access the hinge/bracket so if anyone has any tips they could share I would be most grateful.



clenched rivets on LH hinge mounting bracket

pop rivets on RH hinge mounting bracket

This is where the water is running into the boot although not identified source as yet

The u shaped channel is where the water is running into the boot from although not identified the source as yet

 

Take a look at this thread, had the same problem as you, although yours looks even more like a repair job after an accident:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-trunk-167703/

 

Hi I have seen that before and it's obviously had something done around the bracket although I have given the boot structure a thorough inspection and other than the bit in the photograph I can't see any signs of a repair and it all looks original. I am an ex aircraft engineer so am pretty savvy around structures and repairs and it looks original to me, but I could of course be wrong.

I just can't think why this bracket would have been removed and re-fitted other than to solve the leak unless it has been caused by shrinkage of the sealant as I can't see any damage.

Looks like it's a job for sunnier days

 

Chris, pictures in post #15 look to have been taken in or outside Cape Town, South Africa. My wife and I stood outside the building in the two pictures - I think it was a Dutch government building from the colonial period - and the middle picture shows Table Mountain just above the city, with Signal Hill/Lion's Head to the right. Judging by the view in that photo, it appears to have been taken north of the city along the M14 motorway, toward the infamous Robben Island. I know, TMI,,,

 

That is really interesting; would Jaguar have shipped a car out there for a photo shoot?

It used to be you could rely on a photo but nowadays it's not difficult to photo shop backgrounds I suppose..........

Would love to know if the pics were genuinely taken in SA

Chris​​​​​​​