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, and I think he might be on to something. This was just sold for 29k, and with just 21k on the clock, it seems like the new owner got a hell of a car. I think the styling of this machine has aged beautifully ... do you think we'll see prices climb in the future?
Prices won't climb because unlike the '60's muscle car era with million unit production parts won't be readily available for these critters in 20 years. My '68 Fairlane has stayed in excellent shape that past 20 years of ownership with minimal upkeep. My '68 Ranchero made it 15 years before rust and uncomfort took it off the road. My blown '93 Mustang made it 10 years and 100k until the same. My '05 Lincoln LS made it 5 years before getting sold as a money pit and it's the same tech as the XKR so I expect similar results. Plastic cooling components suck...
Don't hold your breath. Special models might have some value in future. XKR-S maybe but I will not be holding on to mine waiting for it to happen. Too many newer cars are now much faster, safer, better handling and more economical than these old things. Enjoy them now, use them and then sell them to get something better.
It's already a classic in my eyes. I'm just not expecting to make any money off it
Keep it nice and you'll get more than average when you sell but everything Ranchero said is true. They won't become sought after for renewal or restoration IMO.....
Prices won't climb because unlike the '60's muscle car era with million unit production parts won't be readily available for these critters in 20 years. My '68 Fairlane has stayed in excellent shape that past 20 years of ownership with minimal upkeep. My '68 Ranchero made it 15 years before rust and uncomfort took it off the road. My blown '93 Mustang made it 10 years and 100k until the same. My '05 Lincoln LS made it 5 years before getting sold as a money pit and it's the same tech as the XKR so I expect similar results. Plastic cooling components suck...
I think some of the computer stuff might be difficult to replace in the future as well — and that stuff can be way harder to fab...
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That's why future "modern" drive trains and such will be installed into the old 'antique' X150s thirty years from now. Probably either electric, hydrogen or "Mr Fusion"s.
Maybe. With the exception of the wonky 8" hybrid rear diff the drivetrain is pretty bulletproof. It's also more powerful versus a solid 98% of the car out there. A 4.2 //r will eat a 5.0 Mustang and intimidated the heck out of Vettes or Camaro drivers.
The powerful curves have aged well. Sure it could use DRL's and better tail lights but it's still a modern rare cat that garners comments often. Compare it to a '07 Mustang, Vette or Caddy. They look aged in comparison...
I think some of the computer stuff might be difficult to replace in the future as well — and that stuff can be way harder to fab...
That would be my guess. In twenty years, the CAN Bus, LIN Bus and MOST networks (and let's not forget GVIF - which was already obsolete on install), will all be the equivalent of what Windows 98 is today. Your "Classic" will have to be sold with a Panasonic tough book with Windows 7 32 bit, SDD, VCM and cables.
The body is timeless, engine and drivetrain are outstanding. The rest, meh....
I'm already having to rescue X100's from the scrap yard because of failed modules and other electrical/electronic problems that aren't economically viable to repair through official channels. When a repair costs nearly half the value of the car, is destined for the wreckers.
Unless the X150 holds its value or appreciates, the same thing will be happening to them in 10 years time.
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That's why future "modern" drive trains and such will be installed into the old 'antique' X150s thirty years from now. Probably either electric, hydrogen or "Mr Fusion"s.
Jaguar Classic has already made your dreams come true with this 1961 E-Type Zero. They're available to purchase now, either turnkey or by conversion of your E-Type.
What does this mean for our beloved X150? As a Big Cat, that legend says has 9 lives, after the death of its first heart - the internal combustion engine - it can live again with a heart transplant - a new electric drivetrain - and still have 7 lives left!
IMHO, the first thing that makes a car collectible is eye appeal, followed by a variety of other factors. No one needs a collectable car, they want it! Emotions are a big factor.
All 1967 Corvettes appear identical at first glance, but there's a huge difference in value between a base model and an L-88. So collectability is more than just what meets the eye. Limited production, power train, historic impact, altogether its "provenance".
I agree with Sean W - the body is timeless, and so is the all-aluminum construction and interior design. Not so for the infotainment system, but who buys a car primarily for its infotainment system? Does anyone look at their X150's infotainment system before going to sleep? I'll bet that when you first brought your X150 home, you looked in your garage before going to sleep and had pleasant dreams! I know you did because I did. And it's still as gorgeous as the day I bought it. And that's the bottom line why I think it will be collectible. Timeless beauty.
Concerns about getting parts in the future are well taken. However, with Jaguar Classic now doing factory conversions of E-Types to electric powertrains, the X150 is also a likely candidate for conversion in the future.
However, with Jaguar Classic now doing factory conversions of E-Types to electric powertrains, the X150 is also a likely candidate for conversion in the future.
This was in a recent issue of Auto Express in the UK.
My preference would be to put a 5.0l/600 hp into the E-type with some suspension updates. Unfortunately I think the ECU for just the engine isn't a separate part of the overall system. With that the easiest conversion would be some LS engine swap.
09-06-2018, 07:45 PM
Is the XKR a future classic?
