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Old 08-09-2018, 12:23 PM
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I had new tires put on my 2001 XKR Silverstone Coupe and had an alignment done. I was surprised with the reply that my camber is too much and we have no way to adjust this on the X100.

My mechanic told me I would need all new shocks! I was a little surprised to find out I need this amount of work on a car with only 9k miles on it. I understand this is a heavy car and is 17+ years old. But is this believable?

He gave me two options. I could chew threw tires more frequently or have my shocks replaced. If I went through with the new shocks...

Does anyone know if the Silverstone coupe had different shocks/springs than the standard XKR as I understand the coupe was 10mm lower? If so, does anyone know where/if these are still available?

If not, how does everyone feel about Bilstein stocks as replacements?

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There is an ADJUSTMENT BOLT JZB100085 to 'tweak' the camber on the inner, lower control arm. It does not do much but it was available 15 years ago.
The upper 'spring/damper mount' usually deforms and causes camber issues.

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Old 08-09-2018, 01:31 PM
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Shocks have NOTHING to do with your camber issues. Another case of a mechanic who doesn't understand cars.

The previous advice is correct. Shock mounts first.
 
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As advised above, many of us have learned that installing new upper shock mounts will bring the vehicle back into proper alignment. Your factory shocks should be fine. I recommend the poly upper shock mounts from Welsh Enterprises....
 
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As others already stated its not the shocks but the upper mounts that collapse and drop the ride height causing excessive negative camber. And these go away with time just as easily as mileage. Use the factory mounts, i hate the urethane. They collapse too just as fast if not sooner. Quality control for composition sux and anything less than -2.* is fine by me.
As ill stand that tire up straight in a corner
and untill you approach 2* your not going to wear the tire. Leave that for incorrect toe or setting up the toe without using a pressor bar when doing the alignment
 
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Hi All,

Thanks for the overwheling respose. Does anyone have part numbers for replacements.

 
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Here is a +1 from me on the Welsh mounts. Some members that had opted for the Jaguar mounts have had to redo the job at a later point. The Jaguar part is just not durable. Other after market poly mounts have been shown to literally melt over time, forcing owners to do the job over again. Buyer beware.
 
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Thanks all!!

Just front mounts have this problem?
 
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JaguarXKR
Thanks all!!

Just front mounts have this problem?
Rear mounts will fail too. But they will take a lot longer than the fronts that take the weight and brunt of the road impacts.

Sadly, Welsh does not make mounts for the rear in the same material as their improved fronts. I sent them an email asking them to consider making the improved rears but never got a response.

I am on my third set of front mounts (first two were not Welsh). My rears were still in decent shape when I replaced them at about 90K miles. I would recommend that if you have any reason to take the rear suspension apart you replace everything at that time. The parts are way cheaper than the fronts.
 
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^^ I concur. The factory rear mounts tend to hold up longer and not degrade as much. I was surprised at how good they looked after Wayne (cjd777) and I replaced them in October 2014. Welsh may have decided not to create a rear kit yet due to the fact that the originals last longer. Perhaps they will eventually decide to come up with one if enough owners keep asking them about it....
 
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What does a typical shop charge for replacing all four shock mounts? I got quoted $2k...

My mechanic also told me this... "Do not use urethane mounts – Bad idea (rides bad and I have seen them crack the inner fender) Urethane will not collapse as much maybe raising ride height, but I would not use them"

Thoughts?
 
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Keep in mind that those of us who have installed the Welsh poly upper front shock mounts have been very happy with them. The ones in my wife's 2006 XK8 have been in place since January 2016 and are holding up quite nicely. Note that there are other poly shock mounts from other suppliers (Partsgeek comes to mind) that have not held up. Some have even melted in place after less than a year. Lesson learned - if you decide to go poly, then go with the proven Welsh kit....
 
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