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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 10:22 AM
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I actually procured the proper lug nuts. I’m on vacation but will post the information when I get back for others that may need. The short ones just don’t work well as the lugs are deepest
Originally Posted by rothwell
Since there is only one spec in the manual for wheel lugs I would believe it is same for BBS wheels.

From the PDF repair manual:

Outer Tie Rod End Securing Nut 71-85nm
Outer Tie Rod End Jam Nut 71-85nm
 
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by XxSlowpokexX
I actually procured the proper lug nuts. I’m on vacation but will post the information when I get back for others that may need. The short ones just don’t work well as the lugs are deepest
What does that mean?
Are the torque specs for the adamesh provided correct or not? ie the same as the factory lug nuts.

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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rothwell
I have always torqued the Adamesh lugs the same as OEM.
Used a couple different 23mm sockets, and a bit of hammering the nuts came off finally!!!
Put the adamesh nuts instead, man I couldn't believe how much torque it needed after maximum hand tightening. I screwed it pretty tight, then used the torque w. to get a click at 102nm. Wow, it took at least an extra 20 (30?) more pushes to finally hear the click!! Quadruple checked the torque wrench numbers, used another one with a friend, 75ftlbs (equivalent in ftlbs) to double check. Same result, it took us a huge amount of torquing up until the click. A bit scary.
I remember the regular nuts only needed a good hand tightening then a bit of torque wrench. The adamesh were nowhere near that effort when we switched from regular wrench to the torque wrench. It took a lot.
Did you get that too Rothwell?
It was the same thing for each wheels. What gets me worried is that the factory wheel nuts didn't need remotely as much torquing past manual tightening. By that I mean tightening as much as possible without extra force. The adamesh tightening with the torque wrench felt like it would never end. You'd have to force a lot again and again and again and again...etc.
It looked like there was still room to torque more if we hadn't stopped at the click though. Which is weird considering how short the adamesh nuts are.
I'm rambling so sorry.
But I sure hope that the studs will hold and the wheels will stay on; That the lug nuts they sent me (I got adamesh) require 102nm(75flb) torque, that they're fully compatible with the 20"bbs wheels and the performance package, that they work fine on these used studs (inspection looked ok). I guess it beats going to the shop and overtorquing
 
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by alexander thegreat
Used a couple different 23mm sockets, and a bit of hammering the nuts came off finally!!!
Put the adamesh nuts instead, man I couldn't believe how much torque it needed after maximum hand tightening. I screwed it pretty tight, then used the torque w. to get a click at 102nm. Wow, it took at least an extra 20 (30?) more pushes to finally hear the click!! Quadruple checked the torque wrench numbers, used another one with a friend, 75ftlbs (equivalent in ftlbs) to double check. Same result, it took us a huge amount of torquing up until the click. A bit scary.
I remember the regular nuts only needed a good hand tightening then a bit of torque wrench. The adamesh were nowhere near that effort when we switched from regular wrench to the torque wrench. It took a lot.
Did you get that too Rothwell?
It was the same thing for each wheels. What gets me worried is that the factory wheel nuts didn't need remotely as much torquing past manual tightening. By that I mean tightening as much as possible without extra force. The adamesh tightening with the torque wrench felt like it would never end. You'd have to force a lot again and again and again and again...etc.
It looked like there was still room to torque more if we hadn't stopped at the click though. Which is weird considering how short the adamesh nuts are.
I'm rambling so sorry.
But I sure hope that the studs will hold and the wheels will stay on; That the lug nuts they sent me (I got adamesh) require 102nm(75flb) torque, that they're fully compatible with the 20"bbs wheels and the performance package, that they work fine on these used studs (inspection looked ok). I guess it beats going to the shop and overtorquing
I had my old Adamesh lugs on/off at least 20 times and can't remember them requiring any extra effort to torque. The only time I ever used the original capped lugs was to remove them. Don't think I ever put one of those back on the car so nothing I can compare.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 09:02 AM
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I have had a set of Adamesh steel lug nuts on my wife's 2006 XK8 since I purchased them from another forum member in June 2013. I have never had a problem with them. The only negative is that they are relatively ugly but who cares, they are simply lug nuts....
 
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon89
I have had a set of Adamesh steel lug nuts on my wife's 2006 XK8 since I purchased them from another forum member in June 2013. I have never had a problem with them. The only negative is that they are relatively ugly but who cares, they are simply lug nuts....
Jon perhaps when you get a set of wheels on the car that you like then you will appreciate a pretty set of lugs. I agree lugs don't matter with drug dealer wheels.

If anybody wants my old set of ugly Adamesh lugs they are free for the taking.

Got a couple sets of OEM capped lugs too - also free to take.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2020 | 10:37 AM
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Sorry for the delay I keep forgetting . Total for all 20 was under 100$ USD. As you can see they are much different than the typical xj wheel.




Also included part number and where I bought from. He is an eBay vendor if you do a search
 
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 09:47 AM
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Slowpoke,

I'm old and stupid and I have tried but I can't find this Guy....I've looked at eBay but I need some help finding him....Please send some kind of email address so we can locate this Guy's eBay Shop!

These Lug Nuts appear to have a Chrome wrapped Top and also look to be about 2" long....Is that about right?

Thanks!

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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 11:27 AM
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Slowpoke,

I'm old and stupid and I have tried but I can't find this Guy....I've looked at eBay but I need some help finding him....Please send some kind of email address so we can locate this Guy's eBay Shop!

These Lug Nuts appear to have a Chrome wrapped Top and also look to be about 2" long....Is that about right?

Thanks!

Billy Clyde
Yes. I would have preferred no caps as I had problems with my XJR lugs in the past. But these are the only ones I found this length that work. Let me know if this works

https://www.ebay.com/itm/JAGUAR-X300...53.m1438.l2649
 
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rothwell
Jon perhaps when you get a set of wheels on the car that you like then you will appreciate a pretty set of lugs. I agree lugs don't matter with drug dealer wheels.

If anybody wants my old set of ugly Adamesh lugs they are free for the taking.

Got a couple sets of OEM capped lugs too - also free to take.
What's state/City are you living at Rothwell ?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2020 | 05:01 AM
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Hi,
As I mentioned earlier, I got the AJAM59 from adamesh, ie, wheel nuts for my 04 xkr with 20" bbs wheels to get rid of the annoying capped nuts.
Question is: There's a long reach and a short reach version. The long reach seems to match the capped nuts in length. However, since these are both 1/2 - 20 threads, should it matter? Would the difference between these lug nuts only visual or am I missing something?
I imagine there's just more empty space inside the mounted long reach nuts. The short reach took a good 30 spins to get torqued to specs, so, definitely not so short (unless it just compressed the threads on and on.. jk.)
What am I missing here, is there something about the long reach that should be on these bbs wheels or are the short reach fine? Or maybe, both would fit...
Beaucoup questions, beaucoup merci amis!
Thanks everyone. Hope you're all safe and sound.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2020 | 11:30 PM
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With my 19” Montreal’s the coating finish in the deep lug wells is quite poor. The long reach lug nut hides this. Could this be the reason?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2020 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by XJR-100
With my 19” Montreal’s the coating finish in the deep lug wells is quite poor. The long reach lug nut hides this. Could this be the reason?
My question was, in a nutshell, long reach, shirt reach, does it matter in term of safety as long it's a 1/2 20 threads? Long reach had empty space stud to bottom of lug nut, short reach hasn't. Am I right in that statement or not? Capped nuts are long reach. The ones from adamesh AJAM59 are short reach. Yet it took many many spins to install. It actually felt like it needed way more spins with the short reach than the factory installed capped long nuts to reach torque specs.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2020 | 12:31 AM
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Cannot follow your reasoning. The number of “spins” is dictated by the thread pitch, so both style nuts will turn the same amount.
I gave you a possible reason, also with the deep lug wells maybe you could have a problem getting a lug wrench in there to reach short lug nuts.
i am not familiar with your wheels, so I will bow out.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2020 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by XJR-100
Cannot follow your reasoning. The number of “spins” is dictated by the thread pitch, so both style nuts will turn the same amount.
I gave you a possible reason, also with the deep lug wells maybe you could have a problem getting a lug wrench in there to reach short lug nuts.
i am not familiar with your wheels, so I will bow out.
My bad,
I have the 20" bbs wheels. I meant short reach long reach as long it's 1/2 20 it's the same specs no? The difference is just the look. The stud probably doesn't touch the other end of the nut when it's long reach since the nut is extra long. Just was wondering what would be the difference in terms of safety, if there's any at all, between long and short reach since specs are the same.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2020 | 11:20 AM
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As locking wheel nuts are shorter (and often used) than the extended reach nut then I doubt there is any mechanical concern as long as effective thread length is similar and the flat heavy duty washer is in place.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2020 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by XJR-100
As locking wheel nuts are shorter (and often used) than the extended reach nut then I doubt there is any mechanical concern as long as effective thread length is similar and the flat heavy duty washer is in place.
It's not locking nuts, just replacing the capped nuts. They're after market nuts much shorter ones sold by adamesh. They're short reach.
https://www.adamesh.co.uk/replacemen...els-1080-p.asp
 
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Old Mar 23, 2020 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by alexander thegreat
It's not locking nuts, just replacing the capped nuts. They're after market nuts much shorter ones sold by adamesh. They're short reach.
https://www.adamesh.co.uk/replacemen...els-1080-p.asp
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Old Mar 25, 2020 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bcprice36
Lug Nuts
My Lug Nuts came with the XKR originally....They are the Capped type and are 2" long...About 2 years ago I bought a set of Lockers, as I felt I had about given up all my Luck over the years. The Capped Nuts have held up well over the years as I always take the Removal Tools to the Tire Guy and explain how to use them...When they understand how to use the Air Valve and the Lock Nut cover puller and the Key. They feel like they have learned something and they really are careful with it when you hand them a $10. Bill....I explain that the Torque to use on the Wheel Nut is 75 Lbs. This protects the Chrome Cover and after all the years, the Nuts still look pretty good! Probably average about 21/2 years per set so they have been on and off several times. What do you think?

Billy Clyde

Left Front Montreal Wheel with a Locker Nut
 
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