Hi Guys,
seen this tread and thought it would solve my problem of two fobs "latching on" therefore not releasing signal and confusing security unit, anyway I obtained a S type key and fob from local breakers "2002 registered car" and though great will be able to program this to car, WRONG! the car does not recognise the fob, no red light when pressing any buttons. I know it works as I tried it on its own car and every button worked fine, so I though it must be wrong frequency. I dug out my old communication reciever and tuned it to 433MHZ and sure enough it works a treat, all buttons functioning (this is how I know my original fobs were latching on) so what to do next? I will have another attempt later on but if anybody has any ideas please post.
regards all
rrosscoe
and a happy new year to all

 

I don't think the flip Key works on 2000 and earlier cars. The fobs are 433MHZ but the FCC numbers are different.

 

Hi ungn,
just my luck eh, same size same shape wrong fcc coding, is there anyway to modify it?
regards
rrosscoe

 

And for anyone browsing old forum posts like me for ideas..

If you're not concerned about it being an actual Jaguar product, or even looking like one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/132380855339

 

Ordered one, thanks for the pointer!

 

Are you sure this will work? Picture seem to show a (VW/Audi style) blade, not a TIBBE stem like we need. Maybe the picture is wrong, or you are more comfortable hacking this key than I am. Let us know how it turns out.

 

 

Same, it wasn't that expensive and if it does work it's a keeper.

 

Well that's odd. I've been watching a different listing, which looks to be correct for an X350 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113234996...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
But I am in the Land of Jags.p.s.IIRC the radio frequency is different in USA and RoW so it may not be right for yoi.

 

You can change the frequency apparently, I haven't tried this so YMMV.

 

The flip fob from China arrived. It's a proper-length Tibbe key blank for the XK, and I already programmed the remote.

The locksmith in my neighborhood who advertises "OEM and aftermarket Jaguar keys!" said they "can't do the advanced ones," though, by which he clarified they can't do Tibbe at all! Feh.

There's a dealer a couple miles from my office; I'll go there tomorrow and see what they say.

Sam

 

Well, if you have a spare original key, and you are confident in your hacking abilities, you can melt/cut the plastic handle, and recover the transponder and key stem. Than transfer those onto the new key for $0.

Alternative is to have the tibbe stem made and mounted on this new combo. Check eBay vendor "carlockandkeys". He does not provide the transponder but can cut an 8-cut tibbe based on a picture of your original key.

Then on to the transponder hunt...

 

 

If you were to re-use the existing transponder (buried in the plastic handle of the existing Jaguar key), and put it into the new key body (and remove whatever is in there already), this new key would just work for $0.

If you want to use the new transponder already in the new key, it likely came "blank" and needs to be "paired" with the car, which involves a software procedure with the SDD "factory" software. All the keys you have need to be present (including valet!) as they will all need to be updated with a new secret. Expect to pay a diagnostic fee, or an hour labor at the dealer for this, if they agree at all to get involved.

 

 

 

• My local locksmith (from the next island along) cuts Tibbe keys. A similar key is used in some Abloy padlocks, which are expensive but not rare. Most of his time is in decoding the angles of the notches and programming his machine, I got him to write them down for me for next time. Some of the blank key stems you see are for Fords and are shorter than the Jag ones. I forget his price, but it is much lower than a Jag dealer charges.
• A clever idea I had was to get an unchipped copy key to conceal outside the car for emergency use. I have a chipped one concealed in the boot. If I open it with the dumb key, the alarm is activated, but I can stop it with the blipper in the boot. I also have a concealed house key in there. Magnetic boxes sometimes fall off, or a ne'erdowell might find it, so I like the fact that the external key is a cheap copy that will open doors, but not start the car. Sadly magnets don't stick to mine.
• If your key chips work the same way as mine, you can program extra ones yourself using the car's onboard computer. You might need to be brave in case you accidentally delete the coding. You need (at least) two good keys. My local Jag specialist does it for £50 with a laptop.

 

 

Yes that'll work it's a bit pricey though you can find better deals.

You will need to get the transponder programed along with ALL your other keys.

 

FlipI did this 2 months ago and have been using the Flip ever since! I'm glad I did it and now have ordered another Flip for my other Key...It's really nice to pull it out of your pocket push the button to open the door or trunk. Push to flip the key and shove it in the ignition and crank her up! No Keys hanging down on your knee or banging around....I will be destroying my last original key this weekend so that I will have (2) Flip-keys....Best improvement I've seen or done in some time....Be sure you have a Heat Gun to heat up the head of the Key before you start tearing it apart and be very carful not to break the capsule inside. I was lucky.....it work's great!
Love it!

Bill Clyde in Houston

Next Day: The Flip Key looks the same as the 2005 XJ Key...The XJ Key piece is actually shorter than the XKR Key, so when you cut the back-end off the XKR Key, you will what to cut it close to the round part and leave only a short piece of the flat end....Just enough for the pen to hold the Key in the Flipper.....By doing this the over all length of the Key itself will fit better in the slot on the side.....When you use your XKR/XK8 Key and the little Transponder that's hidden inside the Key Head (You have to tear the XKR Key apart) it is just like using your old XKR Key: Except....You will need to program all your Key-Fobs to open the Doors....Remember Pull the Blinker Handle Back, Turn the Key to ON...Pull the Blinker back 5 times until the little light down by the shifter lights up...….Then push lock on each of 5 Key- Fobs.
You can only load 5 Key Fobs! If you don't have 5....Then push one of them enough to make-up 5.....Works great, Looks great and the cost is cheap enough.....You'll be glad you did!

BC