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1. That will buff right out.
2. How many of the 67,918 miles were done with the roof in contact with the road?
1. That will buff right out.
2. How many of the 67,918 miles were done with the roof in contact with the road?
That flattened windshield inspires absolutely no confidence of it offering any protection in a roll-over.
At least the vehicle wasn't all wrapped up in Biohazard tape as one sometimes sees.
Coupe: 1, Drophead: 0
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At least the vehicle wasn't all wrapped up in Biohazard tape as one sometimes sees.
Coupe: 1, Drophead: 0
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I rolled a 1985 Jeep Cherokee in the winter of 1987 when I was in 4-wheel-drive mode while heading to the office and met by an oncoming Japanese black sedan (probably a Maxima) that had already lost control in a curve on a stretch of snowy, icy road not more than two miles from our house. I made the instantaneous decision to steer into the right-hand ditch rather than be hit in a headon collision. I had my seatbelt on and emerged without a scratch. My Jeep came to rest on its passenger side after one full roll. I rolled down my drivers window, climbed out, and jumped off. The driver of the sedan spun around, never left the road, regained control, and kept going. She (yes, I clearly saw the face of the female driver as she approached me with her eyes as wide as saucers while her mouth was fully open and screaming) was too far away for me to read her license plate by the time I scrambled through the snow back up to the road. I walked back to my Jeep and climbed back in through the open drivers window to grab my wallet, briefcase, and suit jacket. Probably should not have done that....
Sure would hate to roll one of these XK8s. The outcome would be much different....
Sure would hate to roll one of these XK8s. The outcome would be much different....
Quick stats. From 2014-2018, almost all fatalities in XK8 coupe and convertibles in the US involved a rollover (8/11 rollover deaths/fatal crashes - generally higher velocity crashes with such a low-slung car, almost all of them excursions off road in a single car crash). Of these 8 rollover fatalities, 6 were in the vert, 2 were in the coupe.
Based on the percentage of XK8 coupes vs verts (generally 20K coupes vs 47K verts worldwide), this does not show a particular vulnerability of verts. A large part of this is probably that the car is fairly safe, in general, and it's qualitatively more difficult to roll compared with vehicles with higher center of gravity (like the aforementioned Jeep) which keeps the total number of rolls down.
Similar outcome for the XKR. One rollover fatality (of 2 fatalities) in the vert. One rollover fatality (of 1 fatality) in the coupe.
Based on the percentage of XK8 coupes vs verts (generally 20K coupes vs 47K verts worldwide), this does not show a particular vulnerability of verts. A large part of this is probably that the car is fairly safe, in general, and it's qualitatively more difficult to roll compared with vehicles with higher center of gravity (like the aforementioned Jeep) which keeps the total number of rolls down.
Similar outcome for the XKR. One rollover fatality (of 2 fatalities) in the vert. One rollover fatality (of 1 fatality) in the coupe.
Interesting statistics Dale....
Once you have experienced a rollover, your perspective really changes. I still drive on snowy roads in my AWD Outback, but I try to do it very early in the morning before other folks decide to venture out. Many drivers in our neck of the woods have little-to-no experience driving in snowy/icy conditions....
Once you have experienced a rollover, your perspective really changes. I still drive on snowy roads in my AWD Outback, but I try to do it very early in the morning before other folks decide to venture out. Many drivers in our neck of the woods have little-to-no experience driving in snowy/icy conditions....
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Rollovers have so many random variables for most passenger cars (vehicle characteristics, speed, weather conditions, roadside soil, terrain, impact type, on and on), so it's hard to compare various models of Jags with small sale numbers outside of those that were produced side by side (vert vs coupe XK8). And these are small numbers of fatalities too, especially considering the potentially aggressive style of driving compared with those generally driving, say, a Chrysler minivan, perhaps.
Given that, XK US sales were under 25,000. 4 fatalities 2014-2018 with one rollover fatality. Safer than the XK8 for rollovers? Hard to tell, but maybe.
Given that, XK US sales were under 25,000. 4 fatalities 2014-2018 with one rollover fatality. Safer than the XK8 for rollovers? Hard to tell, but maybe.
50 years of driving in northern Canadian conditions, with winning experience at high level club rallying in dirt and winter conditions. It's HARD to roll a car unless something really goes badly. It's NOT HARD to roll a truck, SUV or 'jeep' style vehicle. I always cringe in winter when you see these yahoos in jacked up 4WDs speeding in slippery conditions.
After driving my XK8 for while and "trying it out" on some twisting local roads , I would suggest that you would have to be doing something really dumb or be VERY unlucky to manage to roll one.
After driving my XK8 for while and "trying it out" on some twisting local roads , I would suggest that you would have to be doing something really dumb or be VERY unlucky to manage to roll one.
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I’m always amazed that people don’t seem to grasp the basic physics of the connection between a vehicle’s high center of gravity and the increased likelihood of a rollover. It’s hard to pierce the wall non-thinkers put up when they equate the letters S-U-V with safety.
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