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380mm/376mm Brake Rotor Upgrade on 2019 F-Type P300
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share my upcoming brake upgrade project for my 2019 Jaguar F-Type P300 and get some input from the community.
I purchased the car new in 2018 with the upgraded stock wheels to 19" Style 7013. For summers, I run a set of 20" aftermarket wheels, which gave me the idea to explore a brake rotor upgrade — primarily for aesthetic reasons. I love the look of larger rotors, and this project is focused on enhancing the stance and visual appeal of the car.
As most of the parts I would buy brand new from OEM places or Ebay, I have attached the CSV file for the parts I am planning to buy. One part at a time. I plan to do DIY Caliper Repaint myself. As part of the upgrade, I’ll also be refinishing the brake calipers myself. The plan is:
Strip the factory finish using aircraft paint remover
Apply high-temp primer
Repaint with a new color (still deciding!)
Possibly add new decals before clear-coating
Questions for the Community
Is this upgrade worth it purely from a visual standpoint? A rough estimate would be $10K in parts, no including labor and I cant fully DIY this myself.
Do I need to change the following components as part of the upgrade?
Most of the parts you have listed are not needed at all for this upgrade, the 380 mm and 376 mm brake parts are simple bolt off / bolt on plug and play over the base model 355 mm and 326 mm parts.
You do NOT need new or replacement:
- wheel hubs and wheel bearings
- caliper support mount bolts
- caliper support springs (usually known as anti-rattle springs/clips) - these often come included with the calipers especially used ones, and new or used ones can be found on eBay for a fraction of the prices you show.
- ABS wheel speed sensors
- wear indicators (although it is very difficult to swap the front indicator over to a new pad without breaking the bit that plugs in so you might as well get a new one as they are quite cheap)
- brake hoses
The only new parts you need are the brake discs/rotors, brake pads and splash shields and probably a front pad wear indicator.
With the discs/rotors and pads you are much better off going after-market eg R1 Concepts for discs or maybe disc/pad kits and EBC or Porterfield R4-S for pads, again waaaay cheaper (and arguably better) than OEM.
You can get used calipers and mount brackets from eBay etc, heaps of 380 mm ones available but not so much the 376 mm, for a fraction of the new price.
For the front/380 mm calipers and brackets don't restrict yourself to F-Type as they are the exact same parts across the whole Jag range.
Different for the rear/376 mm calipers and brackets though which are specific to the F-Type.
Many years ago now I DIY upgraded the rear brakes on my 2014 F-Type S from 326 mm to 376 mm, there is a multi-post thread about it around here somewhere, and in it is everything you need to know about the rear brake upgrade and much of it is also applicable to the front brake upgrade (which I did not need as the S already came with 380 mm front brakes). Do a bit of searching and you should be able to find that thread.
Last but not least you really should be able to DIY this job seeing as the only parts you need to replace are simple bolt on / bolt off, nothing complicated or difficult like wheel hubs or wheel bearings. I guestimate total parts cost if you get used calipers and brackets to be well less than $2000 US.
I upgraded the front brakes on my 2016 base-trim F-Type this past January. My base-trim F-Type came with 355mm front and 326mm rear brakes. A previous owner had painted the calipers yellow, and I was not a fan of the color. The stock 18" wheels had seen better days as well as a few curbs. The 18" Continental tires were almost 7 years old and needed to be replaced. I wanted to upgrade to larger wheels, tires, and (non-yellow) brakes, but I also wanted to reduce the unsprung weight if at all possible.
I purchased a set of 380mm lightweight 2-piece front rotors and Porterfield R4-S brake pads from Velocity AP during their Black Friday sale. The rotors are made by Girodisc and are 10 pounds lighter than the OEM 380mm rotors. I installed the VAP/Girodisc rotors and Porterfield pads with a set of 380mm F-Type 400 Sport brake calipers I purchased from Ebay for $100. The 355mm to 380mm brake swap was straightforward with no surprises. OzXFR's brake upgrade thread is a great reference by the way.
I debated upgrading the stock 326mm rear rotors to similar two-piece 376mm VAP/Girodisc rotors, but the stock 326mm rotors are lighter than the 376mm two-piece, lightweight rotors. So in the spirit of keeping the unsprung weight to a minimum and letting my wallet recover, I left the rear brakes at 326mm. I did have the rear calipers powder coated to match the front 400 Sport calipers and installed Porterfield R4S rear pads. I had installed new OEM/Brembo rear 326mm rotors just a few hundred miles before I started this project. I may eventually install 376mm brakes on the rear, but I want to see how the car performs with the 326mm rotors before I decide. I acknowledge matching 376mm rear rotors would look better.
When I installed the new front brakes, I also installed VAP progressive rate lowering springs, 20" VS Forged VF01 forged wheels, and Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires. Last summer I replaced my stock open differential with a Quaife ATB differential. A previous owner installed a VAP lower crankshaft pulley and VAP tune. Once I find some time, I'll install the short throw shifter I purchased from Unhinged.
This was taken right after I finished the installation, so the lowering springs hadn't had a chance to settle at all. Please excuse the dust as well. Best of luck with your project.
waldo, thanks for confirming that the base front brakes (355 mm) upgrade to 380 mm is a straightforward job, this is the first such upgrade I have seen for the F-Type.
From what I have read the ABS control module handles all that now and there is no separate bias valve like there was in the past.
Here are the functions the ABS module provides;
It stops any one wheel from skidding so if the bias is off for some reason the system should compensate and adjust dynamically to the current situation.
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After many service-manual reading, YouTube videos watching and websites look up. Here is the word document I will use for DIY step by step instructions to get this project done.
I wonder if anyone can review and provide some input, please.
I know this is a small job for most of DIYers here.
or me, I have only swapped summer/winter wheels for my cars a couple of times. Thats my experience.
If I chicken out and end up asking local shop for help, at least I still have this document to get a quote.