OR like a good-looking kid who nearly flunked out of a public high school program for "special needs" children (A-drums, timing chain tensioners, water pumps, etc.) going to an Ivy League school because his parents (Tata) are billionaire alumni.

 

Yeah, so depends on your locale and other circumstances. Insurance on an F-type is super cheap in my neck of the woods and relative to my vintage and driving record. That stuff is so all over the map with so many factors playing in that its hard to even talk about.

 

I get your sentiment, but nobody really knows how this will play out. We can speculate all we want but that's the simple truth. The world we live in right now is so wacky that anything could happen...lol

Aston Martin was supposed to cease to exist so many times it's hard to keep track, yet they're still here. Who knows, Jag may find its way.

I still am shocked that they didn't transition a little more safely with hybrids or something, but I tend to think that they know something we don't. Surely they know something that says there is a market to go after. Apparently there are people out there with lots of cash who have a propensity for expensive EVs. Perhaps that market is untapped. I don't know. Doesn't interest me in the least, but I have no doubt I will be forced into an EV eventually...Bah

I think maybe their strategy is to get in on the earlier side and get market share before other manufacturers dive deeper. That's my thinking, as this whole shift does seem pretty darn inevitable at this point. I'm still not fully believing these EVs are the total solution, but at minimum they will be a big part of the mix.

 

I just got my allocation for an F-type here in Canada. They're obviously still selling new cars ;-). They're telling me they will be fitting up for the electrics at this dealer, so in theory I will still have a dealer.

There are so many dealers in the US compared to Canada, so it makes sense that they are closing in droves relative to the plans of the company. Such a huge market in the US.

I'm not gonna lie, the state of Jaguar and the uncertainty around it is giving me pause around this purchase, but I am very drawn to the car. Life is short I guess. Occasionally leaps of faith are required I think.

 

Appears to have lost one of the dealers in Vegas, both owned by same company. This was a really new store so the LR bonus must be great. I don't think they sold anymore with 2 as they did with one.

 

Was just at JLR in south orlando having my car serviced. They had a blue vert. 2024 450 rwd in showroom,a couple of new jag EVs and a 2020 coupe 4 banger. No one there knew if the Jaguar side would be continued but for now they still look like they’re viable. They had a large selection of defenders there which surprised me as a year ago when I was
last there they couldn’t keep them in stock. I asked about it and was told the defender feeding frenzy had diminished

 

I have an F-Type P450 Coupe ordered from JLR Livermore, CA. Should arrive late this month (Aug '23) or early Sept.
Reading this thread has me nervous, so yesterday I went to the local, highly respected, "European" repair shop to ask:Their answers were:This will probably be my last car as I tend to keep cars a long time (my current is a Toyota, 25 yrs. / 338K miles old)! I just want a fun car to enjoy, not fix or have a "hanger queen" (old aviation term).
Soooo my question is, should I back-out of the deal and look at a Porsche or MB?

 

It's opinions like that that make Jaguars such great used bargains - and they're no less reliable than the allegedly reliable German brands, IME. Sure, if you don't keep up with the maintenance you'll be opening yourself to a world of pain, but that'd apply to any premium car you treat like that.

 

My two cents are that I have owned my 2017 FTR since new, and it has only had a couple of minor sensor issues early on(taken care of via warranty) and no problems at all since. For a while I was driving it everyday, less now but still regularly. As far as reliability it compares well against anything else I’ve ever owned, foreign or domestic
I question the answer your foreign car specialist gave you, as I can easily list lots of expensive problems that friends of mine have suffered with both Mercedes and Porsche ( including failed engines). Let’s be real-none if these cars are Toyotas, maintenance is going to cost significantly more and they may not have the life span of a Corolla. I keep cars a long time as well and plan on keeping the f type as long as possible.you’ve got a 5 year warranty- time enough to figure out if you want to keep it.

 

Wrong thread...

 

Thanks scm, that helps.

 

I have no local (selling) dealer anymore, so that last part bothers me a lot. I didn't believe my dealer was correct then he mentioned that, since I figured if they're servicing the cars, they must do recalls too. But thinking about it, a recall has to be performed by a franchised dealer, so they can't do it indeed. This is the second time I hear that, and it only makes sense. And problem is the closest franchised Jaguar dealer is 600 freaking miles away (in Austin). Would Jaguar pay to transport a car back and forth to get a car repaired in case of a recall? I really doubt it, since it'd cost over 2 grand. I also wonder what will be the deal with warranty claims: Can a 'non-dealer' fix them free of charge??? That's the answer that will determine if I keep looking for one of these cars, or it's time to abort that. I might be willing to risk a recall, but warranty work is way more likely than a recall. Does anybody know the answer to that for a fact? Thank you.

 

Totally get where you are coming from. I’ve been listening to all this talk on this forum about dealerships closing in droves and it made me a bit paranoid for my purchase in Canada. I asked the dealer who has my allocation about these types of concerns, and they are telling me they are fitting up for the electric cars. I guess that’s fairly certain that I should have a dealer. If I had any sense that I might not then I would not purchase the car. At that point I would turn my attention to Porsche or Lexus.

I ruled out Lotus because there was no dealer near me for instance.

Fortunate enough to have 2 full fledged JLR dealers in town, and a reputable Jaguar independent shop…Hopefully that never changes, as it would quickly become a pain in the butt. I plan to do a reasonable amount of my own maintenance, but inevitably I will need a dealer at some point.

 

Just to clarify - the 'leaving' Jag dealers means they won't sell new jags any more. They will still continue to service jags for 10 years - and so much commonality btw LR and Jag such that those techs will be well equipped to cover jag too

 

It's unlikely a robot would put the wrong badges on the back of the car. That and two other issues were the only craftsmanship problems I had with my F-Type.

 

I got mine (my first and so far only Jaguar) from Cole European in Walnut Creek. It's not too far from Livermore, by Bay Area standards. It looks like they're on the list as keeping Jaguar. I'll be asking about that next week when I go in for my annual service. I've been satisfied with all the work they've done and expect to continue to go there for anything I'm not going to do myself. I used to do *everything* myself, but age, free time, and lack of a lift now are affecting that.