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Feedback and what to look for - 2019 Jaguar F-Type P340
Hello forum members!
Looking at buying a 2019 Jaguar F-Type P340 with 45,000 miles. One owner, from what I can tell from CarFax, it has been services at the Jaguar dealer.
I plan to go look at it and drive it, this Friday. What should I look for while inspecting the vehicle? I am taking my paint gauge meter and borescope. Not sure if I should buy an OBDII reader as well to take with me.
Yes, I did search the forum and could not find much on this topic.
The car had a recent oil change (at 44,000 miles) and previously, at 36,000 miles, it had the following done:
Air filter replaced
Alignment checked
Brake fluid flushed/changed
Four tires balanced
Front brake pads replaced
Front brake rotors replaced
Oxygen sensor replaced
Wiper blades replaced
So looking for what are the common issues with this configuration (3.0 V6 Supercharged)
I do plan to have a coolant flush done as well as changing the rear differential oil. Seems like those are two maintenance items that are recommended much earlier than what the Jaguar maintenance interval calls for.
I will inspect for signs of coolant leaks. Seems like a common issue with these cars due to the Y-pipe. My understanding is that MY2019 should have an updated part.
I reached out to the local Jaguar dealer to ask if they can get me all the service documents as well.
Validate central air vents raise and lower without issues
Validate windows come down when putting down the roof
Validate windows completely close when putting up the roof
Validate any weird noises in the engine/supercharger. When shutting engine off, listen for a repeated knocking sound. If you hear that, it might be an indication of a worn front supercharger coupler. Any sort of engine noise, vibration, constant noise scraping it can be indication of supercharger issues
Inspect bottom rear for differential condition
Test exhaust valve actuation
Test rear spoiler functionality
Inspect wheels for curb damage
Inspect tires are all the same brand and model. Check manufacture dates. Check remaining tire life.
Inspect battery date
Inspect condition of weatherstrip on doors and trunk
Test phone connection. Version S18c_18.37.1-222737 supports CarPlay
Have the injectors been changed. White smoke on the exhaust? Smells like running rich?
Check for scratches in the windows. Door seal/scraper can catch rocks/debris resulting on scratched windows when lowering and raising
Sticky buttons… it can be clean temporarily but it will come back. Solution is to replace them
Read engine codes before the test drive. Drive 20 miles at least and recheck codes for the ones that are persistent
During the test drive check for vibrations, steering feel, suspension reaction in corners, brake pedal feel on hard stop, etc.
I do plan to have a coolant flush done as well as changing the rear differential oil. Seems like those are two maintenance items that are recommended much earlier than what the Jaguar maintenance interval calls for.
I will inspect for signs of coolant leaks. Seems like a common issue with these cars due to the Y-pipe. My understanding is that MY2019 should have an updated part.
I reached out to the local Jaguar dealer to ask if they can get me all the service documents as well.
I bought my MY2020 P340 in 2022 with 24k miles on it from our local Mini dealer. In addition to all of the usual things to check when buying pre-owned (many of which you mentioned), you should look at battery age and remaining tire life. The agm batteries for these cars are a bit pricey. The dealer did replace the worn tires with new P-Zeros, which I replaced with Michelin PS4s after 2,500 miles (a much better tire for this car). I got the low battery warning from the get go, so I replaced the battery on my own dime. The driver side weatherstrip near the floor was badly torn from the driver hitting it while exiting the car, so the dealer replaced it as well. This MY has wired Android Auto and CarPlay. If you plan to connect your phone, bring a cable and test it in the car. If I can think of anything else, I'll come back to you. Good luck! I love my P340 (my third mid-life crisis and the most fun you can have with your clothes on).
I bought my MY2020 P340 in 2022 with 24k miles on it from our local Mini dealer. In addition to all of the usual things to check when buying pre-owned (many of which you mentioned), you should look at battery age and remaining tire life. The agm batteries for these cars are a bit pricey. The dealer did replace the worn tires with new P-Zeros, which I replaced with Michelin PS4s after 2,500 miles (a much better tire for this car). I got the low battery warning from the get go, so I replaced the battery on my own dime. The driver side weatherstrip near the floor was badly torn from the driver hitting it while exiting the car, so the dealer replaced it as well. This MY has wired Android Auto and CarPlay. If you plan to connect your phone, bring a cable and test it in the car. If I can think of anything else, I'll come back to you. Good luck! I love my P340 (my third mid-life crisis and the most fun you can have with your clothes on).
Mahalo! Good points. I will add them to the list. Completely forgot about testing the phone connection. No sure if it has CarPlay... will have to test that as well... EDIT: Being a 2019, searching, it should have wired CarPlay, so I will defenitely test it... Thank you again.
Jaime,
Check to see that the DRLs on both sides are of equal intensity. MYs '18 through '20 are known to have a dimming issue on the driver's (left) side. Mine failed last year to the tune of $3,400 (just for the part; I did the install). People have said that an appeal to Jaguar North America might lead to a partial reimbursement but for the sake of my mental health, I'm avoiding dealing with them. If your possible purchase is from a JLR dealer and you catch the issue during your inspection, the dealer might provide some relief in order to make the sale.
Aloha!,
Leland
Jaime,
Check to see that the DRLs on both sides are of equal intensity. MYs '18 through '20 are known to have a dimming issue on the driver's (left) side. Mine failed last year to the tune of $3,400 (just for the part; I did the install). People have said that an appeal to Jaguar North America might lead to a partial reimbursement but for the sake of my mental health, I'm avoiding dealing with them. If your possible purchase is from a JLR dealer and you catch the issue during your inspection, the dealer might provide some relief in order to make the sale.
Aloha!,
Leland
I bought my MY2020 P340 in 2022 with 24k miles on it from our local Mini dealer. In addition to all of the usual things to check when buying pre-owned (many of which you mentioned), you should look at battery age and remaining tire life. The agm batteries for these cars are a bit pricey. The dealer did replace the worn tires with new P-Zeros, which I replaced with Michelin PS4s after 2,500 miles (a much better tire for this car). I got the low battery warning from the get go, so I replaced the battery on my own dime. ...
In your place I'd have been inclined to just give the battery a good charge and take it from there since the battery in my MY18 is coming up to 9 years old this summer and hasn't missed a beat. My MO is largely short journeys and I don't think the car is capable of fully charging the battery just by driving, unless I'm out for a couple of hours, so I periodically give it an overnight charge (once a month or so, not as frequently as some on here do). YMMV.
Thank you all for your comments and suggestions. I think the list is good enough that I feel comfortable going tomorrow to look/inspect the car and make a decision.
This is being sold by a independent dealer, not a Jaguar dealer. I did reach out to the local dealer (just a few miles from me) and they are looking to see if they can get the details on the service records, since it was all done at the Jaguar dealer that was close to the owner. If I buy it, I want the local dealer to do an oil change, flush of the coolant, and replace the oil in the differential. Just for peace of mind.
Will report back Friday after I drive over to look at the car. Either it comes home with me (I have check in-hand) or I will just keep looking.
I don't think coolant flushes are worth the effort on these cars, the coolant will outlast the plastic parts and you will replace it when doing the repairs anyway. Other than that your inspection list sounds pretty complete, they are basically reliable cars, if a bit on the high maintenance side but not out of range for a euro sports car.
I don't think coolant flushes are worth the effort on these cars, the coolant will outlast the plastic parts and you will replace it when doing the repairs anyway. Other than that your inspection list sounds pretty complete, they are basically reliable cars, if a bit on the high maintenance side but not out of range for a euro sports car.
It is something that I do with any car that I buy used... just for my peace of mind knowing all was done. To have a baseline. Coolant flush, diff oil, brake fluid, oil, coolant hoses, belts, etc.
I can do most of that stuff at home, but I am busy right now at work and if I buy this car, I rather have the dealer do it this time around. I can take care of it from there...
I was able to look at the car on Friday. I have to say, what a beautiful car.
I tried to put my want to have one aside and be critical of it as I looked it over. This is what I have found so far:
1. Engine cover (part number T2R20744) was indeed missing and it seems to be from the last time it was serviced because the engine looked naturally clean… They will install a new cover.
2. They are also replacing the hose that goes from the coolant expansion tank into the rest of the cooling system (part number T4A1783) . It was cracked at one side of the "T" where all three hoses connect.
This one:
Not a photo of the actual car, this just to show where it goes.
3. Tires: Front tires are gone. Rear might have 1-2,000 miles still in them... So all 4 will have to be replaced.
4. Wheels will need to be reconditioned as they have some curb damage.
5. The paint overall is in great condition but I did see one chip on the side sill drivers side.
Since they did not wanted to start the car until the hose was replaced, I was not able to take it for a test drive. But I could not see any other coolant leaks.
Removed the cover in the trunk floor. Inspected the bottom of the trunk and it was completely dry and clean. Electronics looked brand new.
Interior was just as clean and excellent shape. All the buttons looked like new. No sticky buttons/surfaces to be found. Everything seems to work fine.
All weather seals looked in perfect condition.
Windows had not a single scratch on them. All good there as well.
The top looked to be in pristine condition.
Brakes have plenty of life left. Pads look great, rotors looked like 85% life left in them. I will bring my caliper next time to measure wear. But look great just using my nail to try to find the lip for wear...
I was surprised by how compact the car is… When I got inside it was like the thing was hugging me. I did test connecting my phone, worked without issues.
I really loved the color combination seeing it in person, even more than in the photos.
I placed a small deposit and will go back once the issues I called out are fixed. This is: coolant line, tires, and engine cover. They will not fix the curb damage to the wheels, I will have to take care of that. I will then test the rest of the stuff that I had on the list.
Based on what I have seen so far, unless the test drive is a complete disaster, I will be driving this one home...
And I was able to stop by the local dealer. They were kind enough to look up the service history but were not able to print anything. I will have to go to the actual dealer that service the car so they can provide the printed history once they strip the previous owners personal information.
But local dealer showed me in the screen what was done. All services done. Battery was replaced in 2023. Oxygen sensor, one injector, and all spark plugs were replaced on March, 2024. Also confirmed it was a one owner car (which I already knew from CarFax).
Is this an updated plastic cooling pipe? I do plan to replace it all with the aluminum bits... but it would mean that at least it does not have the older ones???
EDIT: Quick search - The Jaguar part number 9W83-8A504-GA (often superseded by -FB or -DC variants). So this is an older version... oh well.
Looks great! Not sure if you ever have to parallel park? If so I'd wait 6 months before refinishing the wheels so you can get used to it. Just show it a curb and they scuff so easily...