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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 01:36 PM
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So another thing I’ve learned in the last week about the SVR is that the spoiler doesn’t work the way it does on the other F-types.

For one, it has Vmax mode, where if you hold down the spoiler button for 3 seconds it stays flat at speed to decrease wind resistance for high-speed runs. But the default function is also different.

What doesn’t make sense to me is that Vmax mode sometimes turns off randomly, and then the spoiler deploys at speed, but doesn’t retract when I slow down. So the end result is that the spoiler is normally up unless I hold down the Vmax button to keep it down for a while. Then it deploys anyway and doesn’t come down when I slow down, so that when I get out of my car, the spoiler is in the up position.

I guess it’s a question whether it’s supposed to work this way, if I’m doing something wrong, or if I have some gremlins messing with me, but I find that pretty much every time I get out of the car, the spoiler is up.

Is this the way it’s supposed to work on this car?
 
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 04:18 PM
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I think I answered my own question...it looks like I have some gremlins. I put it in Vmax mode when I got in today leaving from work. There was a lot of clicking in the dash that sounded like a relay of some sort. Vmax mode was activated, but after driving for a while, it turned off. The Vmax mode may be time limited. The spoiler then functioned normally from there...up at speed and down when I slowed. So I assume that's the normal function, and when it hasn't done that (putting itself back up randomly or not coming down when I slow down), it's due to some sort of electric issue, so I'll have the dealer look at it.

 
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 07:58 PM
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Assuming you have a coupe SVR. It should deploy up at about 60 or 70mph. Drops back down around 50mph. You can't make it stay up and the button is not to put it up and down manually

There is a way to put it up temporarily when parked to clean under it. Look in the manual for details

And as you say vmax turns it off to reduce wind resistance.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 08:36 PM
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Assuming you have a coupe SVR. It should deploy up at about 60 or 70mph. Drops back down around 50mph. You can't make it stay up and the button is not to put it up and down manually

There is a way to put it up temporarily when parked to clean under it. Look in the manual for details

And as you say vmax turns it off to reduce wind resistance.
Ok thanks, so basically the same as other F-types except for the Vmax function.

So mine definitely has a glitch, because it goes up, but frequently doesn’t come down unless I hold down the Vmax button to force it into the down position. I’ll see if the dealer can fix it. There might be a short somewhere.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 02:54 PM
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Mark, I noticed your collection of cars. How do you compare / contrast the Nissan and the FT?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 04:06 PM
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Mark, I noticed your collection of cars. How do you compare / contrast the Nissan and the FT?
They're both great in their own ways, but they're also very similar in many ways. The GT-R is faster but it's not stock. The F-type has a nicer interior but not by much. The 2017 GT-R upgrade is really nice. If you have any specific questions, I'm happy to answer them.



Nice shot today when I was at the dealer.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2020 | 07:47 PM
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Yours does sound a bit glitchy. But you also have a convertible and for some reason they work differently to the coupes
In the non SVR (USA models) the button manually deploys or retracts the spoiler on the convertible. But you can't manually deploy it on the coupe

I thought on the SVR (at least on my coupe) the button just turns on and off the deployable mode. But doesn't actually activate it. So if I press the button once then the spoiler won't activate. If I press again then it will go up at 70 and down at 50
Press for 3 seconds in dynamic mode does the vmax mode

Anyway / let me know what you find out!
 
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Old Feb 7, 2020 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BritCars
... you also have a convertible and for some reason they work differently to the coupes
In the non SVR (USA models) the button manually deploys or retracts the spoiler on the convertible. But you can't manually deploy it on the coupe
According to my MY18 manual the only difference in operation between the convertible and coupe is the former raises at 60mph and lowers at 40mph while the coupe raises at 70mph and lowers at 50mph. Neither will lower automatically if raised in manual mode.

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I thought on the SVR (at least on my coupe) the button just turns on and off the deployable mode. But doesn't actually activate it. So if I press the button once then the spoiler won't activate. If I press again then it will go up at 70 and down at 50
Press for 3 seconds in dynamic mode does the vmax mode
Automatic airflow adjustment mode is selected automatically when dynamic mode is engaged, and can be disabled via the button. As you say, a 3 second press enables V-MAX mode, provded the speed is below that required for automatic activation.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2020 | 09:23 AM
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Automatic airflow adjustment mode is selected automatically when dynamic mode is engaged, and can be disabled via the button. As you say, a 3 second press enables V-MAX mode, provded the speed is below that required for automatic activation.
THAT’S it, thanks! I didn’t see any SVR-specific info in the manual on that. I guess I missed it.

So basically the spoiler functions normally when in normal mode.

When you turn on dynamic, the spoiler goes up, but doesn’t go down when you turn it off. You have to hold the button down to lower it.

It won’t lower in dynamic mode unless you hold it down for long enough to turn Vmax mode on.

This all fits because I frequently turn dynamic mode on and off depending on location. I never knew there was an association with the spoiler, because it doesn’t have that effect in other F-types.

Thanks again!
 
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Old Feb 8, 2020 | 05:32 AM
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I’ve just been out & tried mine, 2018 SVR Coupe. UK car.
Normal & Sport mode, spoiler raises & lowers automatically.
Dynamic mode, spoiler raises & stays there but if I turn off Dynamic mode the spoiler lowers.
i can also raise & lower the spoiler in normal mode, driving along using the button on the centre console.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2020 | 06:29 AM
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The complexity could be fixed in all F-Types with an automatic spoiler that one can switch on/off with a button instead of switch on twice with a button. Now Vmax is spoiler off.

If you must have a cleaning mode that could be a long press that deploys the spoiler full time. If there is some unsafe ungodly speed without a spoiler, then deploy it automatically at that speed.

Personally, I would turn the spoiler off if I could. I think the reason they don't want me to is because it would acknowledge that expensive active aero is largely cosmetic, and that leads to the conclusion that it slows the car down and wastes fuel for a cool factor.
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Originally Posted by RacerX
The complexity could be fixed in all F-Types with an automatic spoiler that one can switch on/off with a button instead of switch on twice with a button. Now Vmax is spoiler off.

If you must have a cleaning mode that could be a long press that deploys the spoiler full time. If there is some unsafe ungodly speed without a spoiler, then deploy it automatically at that speed.

Personally, I would turn the spoiler off if I could. I think the reason they don't want me to is because it would acknowledge that expensive active aero is largely cosmetic, and that leads to the conclusion that it slows the car down and wastes fuel for a cool factor.
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Agreed! On my Porsche 997 Turbo, it was simple. Spoiler up at 72 MPH, Spoiler down at 31 MPH, Push button at any speed, spoiler goes up. Push button at any speed (lower than that requiring the spoiler to be up) and it goes down, Want to clean it...Push spoiler button to go up! Very simple (and a nice looking wing). I wish the R wing looked better and did not block the rear view and create drag! It seems more like an air brake than a spoiler

I did add a switch to my F-type now to disable the wing. All good up to about ~134 MPH then thinks it needs one and gives a warning...

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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Therock88
Agreed! On my Porsche 997 Turbo, it was simple. Spoiler up at 72 MPH, Spoiler down at 31 MPH, Push button at any speed, spoiler goes up. Push button at any speed (lower than that requiring the spoiler to be up) and it goes down, Want to clean it...Push spoiler button to go up! Very simple (and a nice looking wing). I wish the R wing looked better and did not block the rear view and create drag! It seems more like an air brake than a spoiler

I did add a switch to my F-type now to disable the wing. All good up to about ~134 MPH then thinks it needs one and gives a warning...

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At least you're all set for a quarter mile. I'll bet keeping it stowed is worth a tenth or two.
 
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