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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 01:21 AM
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My cheap *** just can't get rid of the crappy Pirellis until I need to due to wear.

I just hope being cheap doesn't come back to bite me on some wet corner between now and before the 4S tires.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 02:10 AM
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I got a set of 4S for XKR, same sizes as the F-Types; 255/35R20 front, 295/30R20 on the rear.

Man these tyres are impressive, even more so when you get some heat in them.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 04:05 PM
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Have you noticed ant difference in tire noise?
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They are just slightly louder but I attribute that more to the large segments of concrete highway we have around here and on the back roads they were very quiet and I've got the vert so sound is more obvious generally.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Burt Gummer
My cheap *** just can't get rid of the crappy Pirellis until I need to due to wear.

I just hope being cheap doesn't come back to bite me on some wet corner between now and before the 4S tires.
I got 15k miles out of this last set which isn't good in general but par for the course with the Pzeros. My last Pzeros went at 14K and they were downright frightening near the end. I never knew when the backend of my car was going to decide to pass me on the right or the left
 
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 05:03 PM
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They are just slightly louder but I attribute that more to the large segments of concrete highway we have around here and on the back roads they were very quiet and I've got the vert so sound is more obvious generally.
Interesting. I believe the majority of people I’ve asked have said they are quieter than the P zeros. I’m hoping when I make the switch from the P Zeros (which I find to be pretty noisy) that they are quieter.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cambo
I got a set of 4S for XKR, same sizes as the F-Types; 255/35R20 front, 295/30R20 on the rear.

Man these tyres are impressive, even more so when you get some heat in them.
Watch out when the outside temperature is below 40 F though. Like driving on a wet road.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RGPV6S
Watch out when the outside temperature is below 40 F though. Like driving on a wet road.
Cambo is in Sydney Australia where the temperature very rarely gets that low (4.4 C), so nothing to worry about. I'm in Adelaide which is colder in winter but warmer in summer than Sydney and I have never even considered all-season tyres let alone winter tyres in 45 years of driving.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CRS 123
Interesting. I believe the majority of people I’ve asked have said they are quieter than the P zeros. I’m hoping when I make the switch from the P Zeros (which I find to be pretty noisy) that they are quieter.
If your driving on asphalt it will be quieter. Pennsylvania has an ridiculous amount of lousy concrete highways that make any tire sound bad.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mbourne
If your driving on asphalt it will be quieter. Pennsylvania has an ridiculous amount of lousy concrete highways that make any tire sound bad.
Thanks. Combination of everything here in Southern California.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 07:53 AM
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Has anyone tried the Sport Cup 2's on these cars?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mbourne
The sad part of the day was my Lobster Run stickers finally had to come off and I washing the car only to get caught in the rain on the way home from a dinner tonight. That sucked but the tires rock!
Finally washed the car, which meant my LR stickers came off on Fri. (Used a hair dryer to warm them up, peeled right off.) Nice to have a clearn car, but I enjoyed the stickers. Thanks Marko!

You'll like the Michelins!
 
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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Anecdotal Northern California report, these are much quieter than the Pirelli P Zeros. I'm a very.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Fishbits
I'm a very.
I always suspected you were. Now I know for sure.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 02:10 PM
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I'm looking forward to replacing the P Zero's with Continental Contact Extreme Sport.


Had them on my 2015 GTI Autobahn, very nice tire. Really impressive in the wet. Good ride, not noisy.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2017 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SinF
I always suspected you were. Now I know for sure.
VERT! lol

 
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Old Nov 8, 2017 | 11:19 AM
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Has anyone tried the Potenza RE050, I love them. Far better than the Pirelli and on dry I find them much stickier than the MIchelin
 
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Old Nov 9, 2017 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sts-v
Has anyone tried the Sport Cup 2's on these cars?
Yes, I installed Cup 2s in the sizes 265/35/ZR20XL on the fronts, and 305/30/ZR20 on the rears. No problem with fitment and clearance on my 2016 FType R AWD. The grip is very good as you would expect, becomes amazing when very hot. Overall handling is much improved (braking and high speed corners). They are a no-go below 40 degrees. My experience with these tires are on the street is they are very stiff when cold, but soften up as they heat up. The only other concern is possible hydroplaning. The AWD is so stable that it really has not been an issue. I would not put them on a non-AWD for street use.

On the track, the front outer edges wear quickly. And, at $500 ea, 3 track weekends is about all you'll get out of them.

On a scale of 1 - 100, with 100 be the most grip, I would rate them as follows:
OEM P-zeros - 75
OEM size ContiForceContact - 80
Upsized Cup 2s - 90
 
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Old Nov 11, 2017 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Don1954
I'm looking forward to replacing the P Zero's with Continental Contact Extreme Sport.
Had them on my 2015 GTI Autobahn, very nice tire. Really impressive in the wet. Good ride, not noisy.
Surprised to hear this. My Base came with Conti's, and I think they are simply terrible but I haven't had other tires on it to compare. Noisy, rough ride, greasy feeling, treacherous in the wet, no rear grip - I'm actively trying to burn them off so I can get Michelins!
 
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Old Nov 11, 2017 | 09:05 AM
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Costco has another Michelin special mid Dec. $70 back and $.01 install! Probably about $200 less than Discount at that time.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2017 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Don1954
I'm looking forward to replacing the P Zero's with Continental Contact Extreme Sport.


Had them on my 2015 GTI Autobahn, very nice tire. Really impressive in the wet. Good ride, not noisy.

You may want to research a bit more. Reviews suggest Conti's are not the best choice, handling and noise are not tops in class. Tire rack and others do tests with various tires on identical vehicles, which is really the most objective way to review a tire.

I've played with several brands over the years, the latest was the forced experiment with p-zero's that came with my car, always glad to go back to Michelin. And in this latest case, the difference between the 4s and the p zero in such a wide margin, I can't for the life of me figure out why Jaguar put the p zero's on the car in the first place.
 
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