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Old 04-07-2015, 10:58 AM
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Just got the standard 3L ,which says silver callipers but now after 2,000 miles these have lost nearly all paint and are rusty is this normal
they don't look good
Thought I would ask here before going back to dealer
 
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Old 04-07-2015, 11:36 AM
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I would get them painted to a color of your choice. G2usa.com sells brake caliper paint. If you have a second car or can hold off driving it for 24 hours, it can be a do it yourself project.
 
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Old 04-07-2015, 11:53 AM
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Hmmm, I waited to see what others reaction would be...

Mine?
I've seen it on low end and high end cars. I had painted the hubs and calipers on my Jag XJ X358 some time ago and they look great, held up well.
After a recent renewal of the front pads and discs the hubs were rusting through after only a little rain / cold and perhaps several weeks, time to get them done.

I personally do it myself as a DIY project and have it down to a few hours, stock silver on the hubs and either stock silver on the calipers or colour of choice.
By all means you could try taking it back to the dealer but I wouldn't imagine you'd get much joy to be honest.

If doing it yourself you can opt for special caliper paint although I use Hammerite smooth and its worked well for me, available in most colours.

Hope to hear.....
 
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My calipers have never been silver. They're a sought of grey/green that reminds me of airframe primer.

Base model coupe, UK, almost 3k miles.
 
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can you post pictures of what's going on burnie?
 
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Here's a before of my sons X type Sport, rusty and generally horrible, both the hub and the caliper.
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Here's an after with the caliper and the hub both painted, although obviously you can't see the hub ( stock silver )....much better
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I know it's not ideal and I know you shouldn't have to, but it is what it is I'm afraid. I honestly can't think of a car where I haven't seen this.
Anyone?
 
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The hubs are generally bare metal on most cars. With the wheel on you can't see it anyway, so you might not want to worry about it. If this occurs, I use steel wool to get back to bare metal and then coat the surface with anti- seize (zinc) lubricant. This ensures that corrosion won't lock the wheel onto the hub. I have never had an issue with the red or yellow high performance calipers oxidizing or paint fading. The silver calipers will morph to ferrous brown after a short period of time except in bone dry climates. They can reconditioned but really require several days of prepping and paint, best done off the car since the entire caliper needs to be done to prevent edge corrosion from encroaching on the visible areas. The process includes:
1. thorough cleaning with solvents and wire brushes (Dremel tool for the crevices)
2. 1 or 2 coats of hi-temp primer
3. 2 or 3 coats of hi-temp (manifold or caliper) paint.
4. 24 hours between each coat.
You can short circuit this process, but the expected useful life of the paint job will be commensurate.
 
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Old 04-07-2015, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lhoboy
The hubs are generally bare metal on most cars. With the wheel on you can't see it anyway, so you might not want to worry about it. If this occurs, I use steel wool to get back to bare metal and then coat the surface with anti- seize (zinc) lubricant. This ensures that corrosion won't lock the wheel onto the hub. I have never had an issue with the red or yellow high performance calipers oxidizing or paint fading. The silver calipers will morph to ferrous brown after a short period of time except in bone dry climates. They can reconditioned but really require several days of prepping and paint, best done off the car since the entire caliper needs to be done to prevent edge corrosion from encroaching on the visible areas. The process includes:
1. thorough cleaning with solvents and wire brushes (Dremel tool for the crevices)
2. 1 or 2 coats of hi-temp primer
3. 2 or 3 coats of hi-temp (manifold or caliper) paint.
4. 24 hours between each coat.
You can short circuit this process, but the expected useful life of the paint job will be commensurate.

Lol I both agree and disagree....

Re the hub ( Disagree )- a beautiful new car or one very well looked after, shiny paint and clear windows with stunning as new wheels looks gorgeous.
For me, I look through all of that close up when I can and hate to see the old / rusty / dirty hubs, really takes away from the overall appearance, just IMO of course

Totally agree, that given the time and alternative mode of transport, the best option s to get them off the car and stripped down, to do a professional job

Unfortunately I personally don't have that luxury, so for me at least, its around 3-4 hours but well worth it.
Hubs painted using Hammerite smooth silver and calipers Hammerite smooth Black for results as below.
I guess it could always be a good stop gap at least to make the car look so much better until time / money / transport allows...


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Re the hub ( Disagree )- a beautiful new car or one very well looked after, shiny paint and clear windows with stunning as new wheels looks gorgeous.
For me, I look through all of that close up when I can and hate to see the old / rusty / dirty hubs, really takes away from the overall appearance, just IMO of course [/IMG][/URL]
My misunderstanding. I thought the concern with the hub (rotor unit) was the machined face that mates to the wheel. (not visible with the wheel on). I certainly agree, that the visible circumference of the hub needs to be properly detailed. Again, time permitting, remove the hub and properly mask the vertical surfaces for the best lasting finish with several coats of paint.
 
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Not the first time reported, but rare. Since car is new why not try to get dealer to paint them and you might as well get a color choice for your trouble. In US there are guys that go to dealer to do this. Retail on my Maser was $500 to change to red(promised wife).
 
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Hi burnie

Thank you for your post.

For assistance with your concern, I would recommend visiting your local Jaguar retailer in the first instance as your vehicle is under the manufacturers warranty.

Your retailer will be able to inspect this concern and advise accordingly.

Regards

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Originally Posted by Ryan@Jaguar
Hi burnie

Thank you for your post.

For assistance with your concern, I would recommend visiting your local Jaguar retailer in the first instance as your vehicle is under the manufacturers warranty.

Your retailer will be able to inspect this concern and advise accordingly.

Regards

Ryan
the dealer has taken pictures and sending them off ,so will wait and see what they say
I did mention about upgrading them but his reply was jaguar wont alter the build spec !!!


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Old 04-16-2015, 11:48 AM
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Just heard back from dealer and they are going to replace all the callipers .
Was asked how I washed it ,and they said to only use Jaguar approved cleaners ,which they have said they will supply me with !!
Deffo will not upgrade them even if I was to pay

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New callipers fitted but they used original silver centre with jaguar on it.<br/>Treated the wheels to some red centres<br/>After picked up had to go back as pedal was spongy they re bleed them and second time ok. Bit peeved they didn't get it right first time though<br/>Burnie
 
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Looks good. Mine have managed to stay that way after almost a year. Hopefully, yours will too this time.
 
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