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I'm looking at buying a low mileage 2020 SVR without the carbon ceramic brake package. I'm wondering if it's possible to upgrade to the CC - and how many extra parts that entails. Is it just the rotors and calipers, or do other things have to be changed as well (i.e. brake lines, parking brake, etc.)? Thanks to those who have specific knowledge of this or who have done this upgrade and share!
I'm looking at buying a low mileage 2020 SVR without the carbon ceramic brake package. I'm wondering if it's possible to upgrade to the CC - and how many extra parts that entails. Is it just the rotors and calipers, or do other things have to be changed as well (i.e. brake lines, parking brake, etc.)? Thanks to those who have specific knowledge of this or who have done this upgrade and share!
Rotors, calipers, pads AND brackets. Unless you are tracking the car on a road course on a regular basis, it's more cost effective to paint the calipers yellow for the bragging rights. The Super Performance Brake package on the SVR is plenty good enough to stop the beast in its tracks without having to spend $12k every time you need a brake job done.
You don't want the hassle and expense of maintaining carbon brakes. Normal brake job is at most $1500, with carbon you are looking at $12 to $15K and they don't last 10x longer (maybe 2x).
I have a 2015 S with Super Performance brakes. During several track days they have hauled the beast down from speed (140+ mph) with no drama and have never faded or shown any weakness. Car has about 24K on it including 4 track days and still has the original pads. The pads do deposit their share of dust on the wheels but my summer wheels are gloss black so its not an issue.
Yep, lightness is the way to go. Will make a much bigger difference on the track than CCB will.
lolz you do realise ceramics are even lighter than a pair of edward scissor hands diced up steel rotors
if you're going to track your heavy compromised road car to the degree that you're chewing through ceramic rotors, you should've just bought an actual track car
Last edited by domino_z; Jan 28, 2021 at 01:23 AM.
lolz you do realise ceramics are even lighter than a pair of edward scissor hands diced up steel rotors
if you're going to track your heavy compromised road car to the degree that you're chewing through ceramic rotors, you should've just bought an actual track car
The Wortecs with OEM calipers weigh in at the same weight as the OEM CCB brakes.
Digging those Wortec rotors! However, I've had the CCB's on my last two cars and I just love the way they look. I don't track the car so it is absolutely unnecessary to have them, and I get that they are expensive (both to purchase and to maintain). But when you are buying a $100k+ vehicle, I don't see the need to pinch pennies. We all do things to our cars because we like they way it looks, despite not needing it. I think cars look better when lowered - not needed and perhaps even more hassle once it's done. We don't need carbon fiber bits, grilles with no bumper bar, or forged wheels. But that stuff allows us to personalize our cars and make them a reflection of what we find appealing. It sounds like the upgrade is doable, albeit expensive. Thanks to those that chimed in - it's great to share knowledge and ideas!
Digging those Wortec rotors! However, I've had the CCB's on my last two cars and I just love the way they look. I don't track the car so it is absolutely unnecessary to have them, and I get that they are expensive (both to purchase and to maintain). But when you are buying a $100k+ vehicle, I don't see the need to pinch pennies. We all do things to our cars because we like they way it looks, despite not needing it. I think cars look better when lowered - not needed and perhaps even more hassle once it's done. We don't need carbon fiber bits, grilles with no bumper bar, or forged wheels. But that stuff allows us to personalize our cars and make them a reflection of what we find appealing. It sounds like the upgrade is doable, albeit expensive. Thanks to those that chimed in - it's great to share knowledge and ideas!
The CCBs do look undeniably cool
if your heart is set on them, it looks like there's a set on ebay for a bit of a discount:
If it’s “ looks” no logic will apply.
if you like it / want it, fill your boots.
I was fussing over a GT 3 a few yrs ago and was surprised by the # of owners who had switched over to steel rotors on cars that were used significantly foe track use....didn’t need the “extra” available from the ceramic.
The Rock has significant Porsche experience...he may have valuable insight.
As mentioned, Unhinged is a fan of the lighter weight / cooler operating Wortec’s
Pretty sure you don’t need the “ better performance “....the “cool” factor is, obviously, up to you.
I have them on my SVR and love the looks. Agree it's not necessary - but nice to have.
I wasn't set on them, but when I was looking for my car there were a good number that had the CCB and there was hardly any cost differential used, so I just waited for one with them
Think economically it's hard to justify upgrading. But you should be able to find one with them.
I wouldnt risk the squealing which is apparently pretty common. If I was inclined to spend the loot, which I am not. If I needed them, which I dont.
no squeel or any noise at all on mine 5 years later
owning supercars with first and second gen ceramics, i can appreciate how good jag's first and still only implementation of the ccb's on this platform is
having said that i too have no "need' for them, i don't even have a "need" for a v8 either in a daily, but i spec'd them in my build, as i do all my cars where i can, because as a hobbiest detailer i hate brake dust, the rust after washing, and having to use caustic wheel cleaners etc in an enclosed wash bay
i've never had to replace even pads as i just don't do enough km on my dailys before selling, so i get the used market apprehension
but just like anything, those who didn't spec them will continue to argue against them, and those who did will argue for them, OP nothing wrong with your logic, but physically i don't believe it's that simple on this platform - on my f80 m3 for example, the brake booster was a different part, and even the ecu software across multiple modules needs to be updated
Last edited by domino_z; Jan 28, 2021 at 07:56 PM.
but just like anything, those who didn't spec them will continue to argue against them, and those who did will argue for them, OP nothing wrong with your logic, but physically i don't believe it's that simple on this platform - on my f80 m3 for example, the brake booster was a different part, and even the ecu software across multiple modules needs to be updated[/QUOTE]
Well, I guess that was my concern - perhaps making the change is more work than just finding another car.
There are also CCF parameters that can be changed to tell the car you have carbon ceramic brakes. Whether this is must or not, I'm not sure. Whether this actually impacts performance, I'm not sure.
Upgrade to CC Brakes
