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Old 06-20-2011, 06:18 PM
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I thought I would start a new thread as the old one was getting quite tedious with all the pages. I got a call from a buddy that owns another repair shop that needed WDS to diagnose a Climate Control Module Fault on a 2005 Lincoln Town Car. I loaded my Ford version 43 and attached the B203 DLC cable to the car. I saw that the display indicated that the BLUE B280 DLC cable needed to be connected!!!! I guess that later Fords need the CAN enabled software AND the B280 Cable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I almost sold it online as I figured I would never need it but I'm glad I hung onto it for the few times iI might need it.

If you work on Fords I would suggest having BOTH B203 and B280 cables!!

Just a 'Heads Up'

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Bob's on it as usual............

Thanks, Bob!
 
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I have a list of the WDS software CDs I have!!!

Ford
A5
A6
B37
B40
B41
B42
B43
C4 discs 1 & 2
C5 discs 1 & 2

I also have B44 and B45 that a European member sent to me but I don't know anything about them. I don't know if they are for European models or some sort of 'patch' before the IDS introduction????

Jaguar
CD-2 (latest 'ghost disc')
JTP 759 Disc Issue 23
JTP 759 Disc Issue 24B
JTP 759 Disc Issue 28
JTP 759 Disc Issue 29
JTP 759 Disc Issue 35
JTP 759 Disc Issue 38
JTP 759 Disc Issue 41
JTP 759 Disc Issue 42A
JTP 759 Disc Issue 42B
JTP 759 Disc Issue 43

Anyone wanting to trade or obtain any of these disc, let me know.

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Hello motorcarman,
I recently bought a Ford WDS system - sadly there were no cd's - can you help me with copies ? I know this site is about Jags and I drive Ford, but somehow we're family ...
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:28 PM
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I can make CD copies and mail them. You have the list of what I have so let me know what you need. I bought a Ford WDS but I have Jaguar software and repair Jags (not Fords). I keep Jaguar and Ford Hard Disc Drives for quick swap to the WDS so it will be both in a matter of minutes.

Are you familiar with the WDS??? I went to the Jaguar training sessions in the late 1990s.

I uploaded the WDS training guide for Jaguar. I have the paper manual for Ford but not available for the internet.

I would advise having both Ford AND Jaguar even if you never intend to work on Jaguars. (info is power!!) You could always trade info for info!!!

See also

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...gds3500-56544/

for more discussions on this subject.

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Hello Bob, thx 4 fast reply

You're absolutely right (info is power) I would gladly ask for copies of all Ford and Jag cd's inclusive B44 and B45.

I'm only surfacely familiar with the WDS system - I have for years used the FDS2000, wich was the predecessor. Do You have the training manual for the Ford WDS on cd ?

I live in Copenhagen / Denmark - so there will be some postage expenses (please USPS) and I think a PayPal'ed compensation for your work will be needed to.
My email: teknik@c.dk

Best regs and thx again
Michael Thiesen
 
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XJRGUY and I are looking into the best way to get the software to you!!!

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Bob, thanx
looking forward to hearing from You.
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I sent several FORD CDs to xjrguy on NOV 22 2011 via USPS so he should get them soon.
He can upload to a large file server.

A6
B43
B44
B45
C5 disc 1
C5 disc 2

That should get you all you need.

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Hi guys, im hoping you could help me! i have a Ford wds unit that was going in the bin at my dealer! so i rescued it!, I have loads and loads of discs upto b45 however, i cannot locate an A6 disc! most of the dealers in the uk seem to have ditched the wds now and dealers i have links with seem to have lost the A6 disc!

Done a google search and it came up with your forum!

Can anyone help?

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Originally Posted by geoff_snake
Hi guys, im hoping you could help me! i have a Ford wds unit that was going in the bin at my dealer! so i rescued it!, I have loads and loads of discs upto b45 however, i cannot locate an A6 disc! most of the dealers in the uk seem to have ditched the wds now and dealers i have links with seem to have lost the A6 disc!

Done a google search and it came up with your forum!

Can anyone help?

Thanks
Can you give an email address where I can contact you??

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Hi, my email addy is geoff.miles@live.co.uk

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Hi Guys. My names Mark i am a senior bodyshop technician for a Ford main dealer, our service dept has 3 WDS units that do not work anymore and i have brought them all home to try and get at least one working to get us out of trouble as IDS struggles or does not work on really old fords that WDS used to so occasionally we become unstuck at work as u can imagine!

The service dept senior tech is ok with loading the cd's etc BUT thats as far as it goes for him but i am more into computers too so i have offered to help out as best i can........

Right i'll list the faults below to see if u have any ideas......

WDS 1. worked fine , one day would not turn on. always cared for and now totally unresponsive - no lights or anything. original battery but even on 12v cable or base station absolutely dead. i have removed the hdd and put it in a caddy and it is fine, no errors. partitioned into 2 sections.

WDS 2. worked fine , newish battery one day would not load windows. service tech reinstalled cd's (not me) and still the same. it loads bios and gets halfwas through windows where u see the little bar moving from left to right at the bottom of the windows logo and freezes. Boots in safe mode ok, wont load TABMAN.EXE comes up with an error. If i try loading GDSshell.EXE i get the blue screen of death and computer crashes.

WDS3. wont turn on, when power button is pressed the power LED comes on but i get a flashing ( ! ) light on the LED panel and thats it (LED 5). newish battery and HDD is fine in a Caddy. tried HDD from WDS 1. and its still dead. HDD does not power up or no noises from WDS. - LED 1 and 4 stay on and 5 flashes when green button is presses. if i hold green and red buttons it beeps and then does the same.


basically i got 3 hdd's working, 2 batteries i know are good, 1 WDS that loads in safe mode but not normal and when thew cd's are reloaded its still the same and even with different HDD's in again it still wont load windows normally. The battery on the motherboard must be ok as the clock is still spot on after months of no use.

Ford Technical wont help us as this is obsolete but there are cd's kicking about at work if i need them.

cant get into BIOS as we dont know that password......

i am powering from home by 12v cable and a keyboard plugged into the top of the WDS, if i need i can bring the basestation home for cd drive etc. basestation PSU got replaced a few years ago.

Any ideas?????

Thanks in advance!

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i have took apart WDS 1. to see whats what and cant see nothing obvious its a total strip to get to the power board in tha very back of it and in tempted to try changing boards over one at a time from the other that wont start.

theres 3 boards by the looks of things , the motherboard is on the back of the screen then theres the board that looks as if it is the data collector board from the inputs in the top of the WDS and finally the power board.

there is no extra RAM in anyone but the CPU looks removable if ever needed.

I took pics too and when i get a min i might upload to photobucket and put the link on here incase it helps anyone one day......

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At least 2, and possibly all 3 sound fixable. If you get a few more posts in then your PM privileges will kick in.
 
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that could be a little hard as i dont know much about jag's , im a ford man...... anyone got a european ford problem? lol

i'll have a look about first.....
 
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I would try complete reload of # 2 maybe pull the drive and do a low level format on it
 
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I would try complete reload of # 2 maybe pull the drive and do a low level format on it
I did think that however i have tried the 2 HDD'd from #1 and #3 and they do exactly the same!!!

I can run a full format from my caddy on it then maybe load all the discs back in - which order do they have to go into it as iirc theres 4 cd's......?

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Originally Posted by Mark Coe
I did think that however i have tried the 2 HDD'd from #1 and #3 and they do exactly the same!!!

I can run a full format from my caddy on it then maybe load all the discs back in - which order do they have to go into it as iirc theres 4 cd's......?

Thanks

Mark
Are you trying to load Ford or Jaguar in your WDS??
 
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The Ford discs ALWAYS load A, B, C!!!!!!!!!

The latest is A6, Then B43, Then C5 disc 1, Then C5 disc 2 IN THAT ORDER

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