Is there a source for carpet templates for my 1967 340? I had removed the old and taken the horizontal pieces to a local trimmer to re create and they have gotten lost. He's offered to replace it all with no charge for labor but my car at the moment is not running well enough to make the trip.

 

Might I suggest you get your repair priorities in order.
A new carpet is about the last thing on my list when reviving/restoring a Jaguar.
Get it running properly and then take it to the trimmer.
Cheers

 

Yep! And while working on the the vehicle to get it running properly you will get your new carpets dirty. New carpets in just before seats. Roof lining should also be in because when doing it you want to be able to move around in the car without doing damage to carpets.

See the thread in my signature. Which mostly runs backwards. Cosmetics last other than spray job and delay that until you have to, to make progress. Listen to Bill's wise advice.

My upholstery & trim man even insisted on fitting the front & rear screens himself so no one could mess up his work.

Or Google Lin's "Valvechatter" documenting his Mk2 restoration better than I have. In my case a whole lot of pictures got lost in the cloud storage. Learn to work with Lin's drop down menu system. You won't get better than that. Go to blog. He is a member here although I have not seen him online for a while. It is the best Mk2 restoration blog I have seen anywhere.

 

Thanks for the replies but that's not what I had asked. I'm quite aware of the "normal' order in undertaking getting an old car on the road again.

 

contact John Skinner Ltd. UK and see if they can help, they sell the carpet mats but I doubt templates.

 

Jonathan Skinner won't release his templates. It would have a negative effect on his prime business.

 

Mr. Ruck we know you will disagree but each time any trimmer sends out a "kit" he is offering his patterns.

 

Not at all. I agree with you completely. All I'm saying is he would like to send out a finished product That He makes a Profit on. He uses some pics of my car on his website & I have sent him bits he had missing from his S Type templates. I have found his kits more accurate than BAS. Especially materials. e.g. roof lining. BAS uses the wrong material. (I have samples of both) Jon (Jonathan) uses lambswool Union Cloth which is what Jaguar used. John was his Dad after whom the company is named.

e.g. BAS rooflining. Thin hard foam backed. (depends on the way you brush it as to how it looks).




Skinner Rooflining (Original Union Cloth).

 

Glyn would not be so rude to disagree with you but I will to a point.

Any trimmer will send you a kit which will include all the parts you need ie carpets already cut, enough head lining material to do the roof, door cards either covered or as a backing and all the underfelt.
I think if you read the first post the here Oxendine asks "Is there a source for carpet templates for my 1967 340?" which is slightly different to a kit. I presume he is asking for paper templates so his own trimmer can make up the carpets for him having lost the originals which he would have used as a template. If John Skinner was to send out his paper templates to anyone who asked I am sure some unscrupulous trimmers out there would be taking them and making carpet sets and then selling them cheaper than John Skinner would be there by doing John Skinner out of a lot of business. That is what Glyn was referring to.

 

Anyone who has run any kind of knowledge based business regularly has to decide what to give away. The answer is simple: only things that will increase the demand for your services.

 

e.g. Small samples of your range of trimming materials that the finished product would be manufactured with.

 

I have made paper templates for my cars. Then sent them to a carpet mat maker for exact duplicates in any material like Cocoa or similar that I wanted.
In one instance, I wanted fromt and rear overmats for my XJ-6 in a very special waterproof material so I made the templates and sent them to the maker. He complimented me on the templates, sent me the finished mats and told me he wanted to keep the templates and in exchange, no charge for the mats!! Hey!! lucky me!

Just get thick brown paper, lay it on the floor and trace the contour of the transmission tunnel keeping the paper lined up with the straight line of the inner rocker panel. In the MK-2, S type, and XJ-6 the front mats go up halfway on the firewall / bulkhead behind the pedals where they are held by 2 buttons. A round hole for the high beams switch is cut in the driver's side and finished with a plastic grommet pressed on both sides There are also buttons at the beginning of the mat by the cross-beam under the front of the seat.
The floor should already have the male part of the buttons rivetted in place unless the floor has been replaced.

 

Absolutely Jose ~ It's not rocket science.

 

I bought my carpet kit from a UK company, can't remember the name off hand, but when they arrived the front carpets were not long enough to go all the way up the bulk head to reach the top poppers and at the seat end they did not have the cutouts to go around the seat floor brackets. I spoke to the suppliers who assured me that they had been patterned from the MDs own 1960s Jaguar S type. I think he must have bought his S type with after market carpets fitted. I had to make a template of what I required from the old manky original carpets out of brown paper which I sent them and to their credit they made up replacements for me based on the template at no cost. Possibly because the MD had some made for himself for his S Type.
Making your own brown paper templates is not hard and even if you are not copying the original carpets but making the template fit the space you want carpeted you might find that they fit your needs better than the originals.

 

About 15 years ago a friend bought a MK2 manual gearshift carpet kit from the UK.
I suggested that before he fitted it, we should make templates which we did from 1/8 inch (3mm) plywood.
When we fitted the original UK carpet it was obvious that there were a couple of problems.
The cut outs for the seat runners in the rear carpets were too short.
The front carpets were too short to make the front bulkhead "poppers". There was no provision for the headlight dipper switch
The plywood templates were modified to fix these shortcomings.
From memory we have made about 5 carpet sets for MK1s and MK2s.
These were not concourse carpets and lacked sewn edges but greatly improved the interiors of the cars that got them.

 

the headlight dimmer switch hole finishing grommet in my original driver side mat was cracked and I found an equivalent from an Italian outfit that sells all kinds of grommets and snap buttons in the USA for fabric and carpeting. They also sell the tooling to install them. The large dimmer hole vinyl grommet is a snap-on type that required no tooling. You place one side over the hole and the rear side on the back and snap them together, pinching.the carpet material nicely for a finished look. Fortunately the snap-on black head buttons in my mats and trunk mat were intact so I needed no replacements, only the cracked dimmer hole grommet.

 

Jon's carpet fit was perfect in my car. On a RHD car the carpeting is quite complex for the dipper switch & his was spot on. An S Type takes quite a different dipper switch on a bracket unlike a Mk2. Mk2 & S type dipper switches are not interchangeable. They possibly were on very early cars. Final S Types used Velcro to hold down tufted carpet. No poppers

The Mk2 uses a dipper switch like the XK120, 140 & 150.

This is a Mk2 dip switch.






This is an S Type dip switch that mounts to a bracket. Like MkX & 420G etc.




It is possible that later Mk2's adopted this system. This is what all SA built cars were fitted with from the start. Mine was No 4 off the local line.