2002 S Type "U codes)
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That looks to be a 2001MY-type car, but at least it's before the facelift. So you likely have the modules and bus structure that implies. As Brutal says, which modules? If those are all from the PCM:
U1131 not listed for the PCM as fas as I can see
U1262 (an audio-related fault)
P0460 fuel level sensor cicuit malfunction
P1233 (another fuel system fault)
As Brutal says, you want a tech i.e. someone competent, experienced and with both tools (especially electronic OBD) and a brain.
You could try what I put in the DSC system fault thread if you've time and are competent and persistent. You may need some expensive tools, too. (Thus, a tech lol)
U1131 not listed for the PCM as fas as I can see
U1262 (an audio-related fault)
P0460 fuel level sensor cicuit malfunction
P1233 (another fuel system fault)
As Brutal says, you want a tech i.e. someone competent, experienced and with both tools (especially electronic OBD) and a brain.
You could try what I put in the DSC system fault thread if you've time and are competent and persistent. You may need some expensive tools, too. (Thus, a tech lol)
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you needs to lists modules that threw the codes, which ones and then the fun begins. it can be modules and or wiring. This stuff seperates the techs from the mechanics.....unless your a customer because then "the computer tells you whats wrong with my car, how hard can it be to fix!"
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U codes
Thanks for all the tips.
The codes are coming from the instrument pack and fuel sensor A which is monitored be the RECM. I am thinking that somthing is actually killing the SCP data bus intermitently. I guess it could be a faulty module or a wiring short to ground. possibly a dirty connector but I doubt it. I had the AE connected and recording yesterday when the fault occured but nothing showed up unususal on any sensor at playback. It gave a fail safe message and MIL for about 40 seconds while doing 60MPH on the interstate. The fail safe message and MIL went off and the engine then ran normally. Left code P1584 and the P and U codes posted earlier. I am now going to connect a scope to the SCP bus and monitor while driving and hope that it will fail while driving so that the memory scope will record the SCP waveform at the time of failure. I may connect the CAN bus to channel 2 on the scope just for reference. I will keep posting as events unfold.
The codes are coming from the instrument pack and fuel sensor A which is monitored be the RECM. I am thinking that somthing is actually killing the SCP data bus intermitently. I guess it could be a faulty module or a wiring short to ground. possibly a dirty connector but I doubt it. I had the AE connected and recording yesterday when the fault occured but nothing showed up unususal on any sensor at playback. It gave a fail safe message and MIL for about 40 seconds while doing 60MPH on the interstate. The fail safe message and MIL went off and the engine then ran normally. Left code P1584 and the P and U codes posted earlier. I am now going to connect a scope to the SCP bus and monitor while driving and hope that it will fail while driving so that the memory scope will record the SCP waveform at the time of failure. I may connect the CAN bus to channel 2 on the scope just for reference. I will keep posting as events unfold.
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Issues with pins and connectors are not corrosion, but loose pins. You have to to a "drag test" on the pins. These are the biggest issues with scp, can intermittent faults. Also when other modules have issues with communications, but 1 module says everything is fine, its usually that module thats the culprit. If youre shade treeing and dont have axcess to pin repair kits, cut out the suspected wires and splice together outside the connectors. Can always be cut apart later if someone has to seperate and reconnected. But it will eliminate that connector set of pins as the issue. but youre in for alot of diag work, these type repairs are seldom clear cut
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I HATE when people don't mention when a problem was solved, but I'm afraid I have to re-open this thread. I have a 2000 Jaguar S-type V8 N/A, and I have all the same codes.
U1131 SCP (J1850) Invalid or missing data for fuel system
U1262 SCP CJ1850 Communication bus fault
P0460 fuel level sensor circuit malfunction malfunction
P1233 Fuel System disabled or offline
The combination problem here is causing the general electronics module and the rear electronic control module to signal the fuel relays (G signal), this is causing a drain of approximately 600 MA on the battery at all times. The question is, which module is sending a signal to one of these two computers (once a ground is received, both modules show ground signal on) to turn on the fuel relays? Since I have codes for the cluster, I'm starting at its connector and pins in the morning. Some of you have seen me here, I'm a Jag Specialist, WE WILL HAVE AN ANSWER. Eventually... But I'm off the clock for the day, I'll keep everyone in the loop.
U1131 SCP (J1850) Invalid or missing data for fuel system
U1262 SCP CJ1850 Communication bus fault
P0460 fuel level sensor circuit malfunction malfunction
P1233 Fuel System disabled or offline
The combination problem here is causing the general electronics module and the rear electronic control module to signal the fuel relays (G signal), this is causing a drain of approximately 600 MA on the battery at all times. The question is, which module is sending a signal to one of these two computers (once a ground is received, both modules show ground signal on) to turn on the fuel relays? Since I have codes for the cluster, I'm starting at its connector and pins in the morning. Some of you have seen me here, I'm a Jag Specialist, WE WILL HAVE AN ANSWER. Eventually... But I'm off the clock for the day, I'll keep everyone in the loop.
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U codes are stored in both the General electronics and rear control modules. P codes are of course in the PCM. The problem appears to be in the rear control module. The signal is NOT on from the instrument to the module, so it is sending a signal it shouldn't be. I have also found that the rear lights are doing all kinds of crazy things, so I am getting a used rear electronics module.
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The RECM also works the lights, which are doing crazy things.
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