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Old 01-22-2010, 09:58 PM
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I know that the kenne bell blower is commonly swapped for the eaton m112. Anyone ever try this?

I was reading an article on the kenne bell swaps and it seems that even if the lower intake doesn't match the eatons, adapters are used. Check out #2 of the article here:

http://www.kennebell.net/media/articles/BOOSTED.pdf

Kenne bell is 45 minutes away from my house, so who knows, maybe I can swap one of these versus porting the eaton or messing with pullies. A used 2.3 is probably about the same cost used as a set of pullies (crank and blower) except with much more potential.

Anyhow, if anyone has an links to articles or thread, that would be awesome!
 
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Old 01-23-2010, 08:25 AM
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This is a very old idea and has never been done with any documentation. Look here for the "Twin Screw" upgrade. Of course for $6K I would consider changing cars if more performance is the goal. Now your talking a 2.3L blower and this upgrade is a 2.1L so it's a bit different.

http://eurotoysltd.com/catalog/produ...oducts_id=1273

This is for the 4.0 L but should only take minor changes for the 4.2L. There is one guy floating around that claims to have done this and has 500+ HP but again all talk and no Dyno charts.
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Old 01-23-2010, 08:38 AM
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And for the ultimate upgrade how about a 4.5L twin screw blower motor from Arden?? Take a look. I can only guess at the huge price of this!!!
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Old 01-23-2010, 09:36 AM
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As far as I know I am the only one who has done a TS conversion on a S-type.

Without an ECU tune it already got close to 420 rwhp, and within the next couple of weeks we will tune the ECU, and expect about another 20 rwhp at least. This is based on that fact that the stock ECU tune is very rich, and there is the room (if you have a TS). We will also disable the EGR, and that is taking a bit more time as expected, but when done will update here the final rwhp results.

Also within the next couple of weeks I be able to show some results of my new (more refined) setup on my 4.0 XKR. It is already installed, but want to run it in, check parameters and if all is well will head off to the dyno. Most I got myself was 455 rwhp (and 470 rwhp on another 4.0 XKR I have converted), and I am hoping now to get to 500 rwhp, the dyno will show...

TS is the way to go if you truly want more hp, as the TS uses less engine power (means more power to the wheels and less stress to the engine as with the Eaton), and delivers air at a much lower temperature with all the benefits of that.

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Does the XFR come with factory twin or single screw supercharger?
 
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Almost certain it's single.
 
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All 5.0 Liter supercharged cars are using now the new TVS from Eaton, that one is still a roots type, but is already much better then the older M112 Eatons jaguar used on the 4.2 engines. The TVS comes close now to the Twin-Screws, but when it comes to higher pressures the TS is still the way to go.
 
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It would be nice if they had a TS conversion for the STR's!!!!
 
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Originally Posted by avos
All 5.0 Liter supercharged cars are using now the new TVS from Eaton, that one is still a roots type, but is already much better then the older M112 Eatons jaguar used on the 4.2 engines. The TVS comes close now to the Twin-Screws, but when it comes to higher pressures the TS is still the way to go.
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Do you have any photos of your engine with the TS set up? Before and after would be nice.Also a look at the LS rear end would help allot of guys on here who talk about doing the conversion.

Thanks.
 
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I posted on the mustang website and they sent me a link to this website. It seems that the case upgrade seems like an economical way to get more performance than the eaton is capable of out of the factory.

http://www.magnumpowers.com/light_pro_pri.php

Is the str blower setup the same orientation as the ford lightning one with the top inlet? I wonder if this would be a easy bolt on?
 
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Old 01-23-2010, 06:38 PM
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Different cases......It would be nice though if it was the same, but I am sure some fab work it can be done but I would guess a cowl hood would have to be made.....

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Old 01-24-2010, 01:10 AM
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The casings are different, and you need to be able to make/machine parts to make it work. There's very little space in the STR, which is also the reason why I was not able to optimize the airflow more (and thus more hp like on my xkr). It was a lot of work to get it done, but if there is interest I might consider making some key parts for it.
 
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what parts did you need to fab up to make this swap possible?
 
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Lets see some pics..
 
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Old 01-24-2010, 10:28 AM
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Ok, i'll take it you want to make a setup yourself, thats fine, but if there is enough interest I can make al the parts (just pm me)...

Nothing to hide, and don't mind if you or anyone else makes a setup, here you can see what is possible:

 
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I was mostly just curious how many different parts you'd have to fab up. At least this will give me a ballpark idea of how much the parts would run so I can figure out a budget to work with or if it's even realistic. Also, what blower unit did you end up using?
 

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Originally Posted by qwiketz
I was mostly just curious how many different parts you'd have to fab up. At least this will give me a ballpark idea of how much the parts would run so I can figure out a budget to work with or if it's even realistic. Also, what blower unit did you end up using?

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x3..........
 
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x4......................................
 
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definately some interest here. As a side note, you can oftentimes pickup the kenne bell blowers for cheap off ebay. Alot of people are upgrading to their really big 2.6 and 2.8 blowers for the latest and greatest and selling off their old gear.
 


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