Hi all, first time poster here. Last Saturday I went to start my car and it wouldn't turn over. I had it towed to the local dealership and they said I broke a rod in the engine. Unfortunately, my warranty expired about 2 months ago when I went over 100,000 miles. Does anyone know what the engine model number is for a 2005 s type r and any place that might have them available. My dealership is telling me its gonna be about $10,000 to repair/replace and thats just not acceptable. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Brian

 

Wow! That is a new one. I have never heard any STR breaking a rod. I would have someone else look at it just to be sure. Was there oil in the engine?

It will be very expensive to replace the engine unless you can do it yourself.
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Yes, there was oil in the engine. There was no warning of anything going wrong either. I drove it in the morning and when I when I went to drive it again in the evening, it wouldn't turn over at all. The weather was about 5 degrees but I can't think of that having anything to do with it. I am considering taking it to another mechanic but I dont see why the jaguar dealership would lie to me.

 

Rods usually break while the engine is running at high rates of speed not while you're starting the engine. I think I'd dig a bit more on the cause of your problem. The Jag dealer might just be stupid.

 

Welcome aboard "noodlearm". The Jag dealership has taken you for a "noodle". Your 05 STR's rods are fine. Just take it to a foriegn car mechanic.

 

You usually know it when you throw a rod....unless somebody took your Jag for a joyride without you knowing it.

What do you mean wouldn't turn over - when you twist the key in the ignition nothing happens?

 

Is it by any chance a "dealership" which has no expert on the STR? I wouldn't blindly trust the current diagnosis.

 

Don't do business with these guys. Your car has overhead cams...which means it does not have pushrods.

You cannot break what you don't have !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overhead_camshaft

 

I think they are talking connecting rod, not push rod.

 

OK, makes more sense now.

Still worth another opinion though.

 

Noodlearm,

I ran a query for STR engines on car-part.com and I got three hits (2003 though). Two at $4500 and one for $2000 although this might be non-supercharged. You can play around with the search criteria to find what you want.

http://www.car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi

 

any updates on this?

Have you tried a fully charged battery to see if it turns over? a socket on the crank bolt and a breaker bar to see if the engine is actually seized?

turning the engine by hand wont do anymore damage then whats already been done if there is any.

 

A broken rod (assuming this diagnosis is even right, which I highly doubt), will NOT cease the motor. You'll get the rod knock from hell, but you wont cease the motor.

To the original poster. Please describe in as much detail as possible how and under what circumstances the car broke down that led it going to this dealer.

I've blown two rods in my drag car, and trust me it's an event you will NOT soon forget.

Take care,

George

 

What about the other usual suspects like dead battery, starter motor packed up, solenoids, etc? An engine not turning over at all would lead me to check the electrical side before the mechanical side.

Good luck though,

Mike

 

That's the direction I was leading him in.

 

Oh come on, a thrown rod is a lot more sexy sounding. Sounds like you were really driving the thing hard ...

Who are you gonna impress with "my battery died" or "the starter jambed".

Solenoid? That's Fer sissies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sYApXA1wd4

Much more impressive

 

I'm kinda waiting for the OP to come back with more.

 

Thanks for all the replies. As for some additional info. I am certain it is not the battery, we tried charging the old one and then installed a new one. As to the circumstances under which it occurred, it was on initial startup after sitting the whole day. There where no warning signs of any kind while driving it that morning. When I went to start it, all the power came on, and the ignition turned, but the engine never cranked, not even once. I don't know much about engines, so I will try to answer any questions as best I can. I am going to take it to another mechanic who specializes in foreign cars for another opinion. Also, thanks for the link to car-parts.com. Again, I appreciate everyones advice.

Thanks,
Brian

 

It's not especially likely, but what you described does not rule out the battery. It also does not rule out all the important electrical & electronic items all of which need to work for the car to start. You really need someone who understands the STR or at least thoroughly understands the electrics etc on the redesign (2003+) S-Type and who also can use an appropriate (dealer-type) OBD tool for that car. (You've got a highly complex performance thoroughbred, not a downmarket high volume car.)

It COULD be a rod but is is VERY unlikely. Go for the basics first (there are a lot before you get to a rod).

Does anyone know a reliable place he can take the car?

 

That car does NOT have a broken rod. Rods break violently and there is a big bang and then the engine bangs and shakes....and sometimes dies.

You popped something electric, or the security system isn't letting the car start (the immobilizer in the key).

Does the car have power to all the accessories? Dash lights etc?

Take care,

George