Hello! Newbie here. My mechanic says I need this part, and he can't find a new one, only used. He thinks it's best if I try to find a new one. I have called a few dealers, but they have said it's out of stock. I'm worried it's discontinued, maybe?

Does anyone know how to track this part down? Or is there an equivalent Ford part I could use? A friend told me that Ford made Jaguars in the early 2000's.

Thank you for any help you can provide!

 

Sometimes you have to be a bit of a sleuth finding parts. Consider the crankshaft pulley, aka vibration damper. This part typically outlasted the rest of the car, so there wasn't much need for replacement. Limited demand = few spares produced. Compare to normal wear and tear items like brake pads, for which there is high demand and a substantial supply chain.

For chasing parts, I like to start with an OEM number. Look here:

https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.../brand/jaguar/

Look at item #5 and then drill down with your VIN. I think you will see three possible OEM numbers for you application. The first two numbers have been superseded by the third, but any of them will work. Search online for those numbers and you may be pleasantly surprised.

Your local dealer may tell you he can't get that part, and he's not being dishonest. The part is likely no longer available through official Jaguar channels. But what happens is dealers auction off older stock in big lots as surplus. Third parties buy it up and sell the pieces individually, often on eBay or similar venues. So when you search online, be sure to try OEM numbers specifically on eBay. I have found lots of genuine Jaguar parts that way, at very reasonable prices.

When searching elsewhere by OEM number, you may luck across some cross references to Ford and aftermarket brands. I've found lots of stuff that way, too.

If all else fails, I think a serviceable used part would be fine. Once again, eBay is your friend.

 

Thank you so much! I appreciate your advice and time. Will try searching based on OEM part numbers!

 

https://www.car-part.com/

 

@kathyk, just to clarify, Jaguar vehicles are, and have always been, produced by Jaguar Cars at either Castle Bromwich, Birmingham or Browns Lane, Coventry. Ford did not build any of Jaguar's cars, they did, however provide a section of their engine plant in Bridgend, Wales for Jaguar to produce the AJ-V8 variants.

The Duratec engine in 3.0 litre form fitted to your vehicle is a Ford engine, which was also fitted to the Jaguar X-Type (X400) and to the Lincoln LS built in North America. You can cross-reference parts for the engine and some suspension components from Ford suppliers, but other parts of the vehicle are unique to Jaguar.

What symptoms were present leading to the diagnosis that the crankshaft damper must be replaced?
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Yes, ebay is the place to find something like that. If you have the part already in your hand, you probably have the part number. If not, you need to work with key-word, so it helps to now all the different terms used for a crankshaft pulley. While I know what a crankshaft pulley is, I would not have called it that. Try balancer or harmonic balancer or just type harmonic, plus of course Jaguar S-Type 2000 3.0 V6

 

Good point, I was wondering the same thing.

The most common problem is the rubber sleeve fails, and the outer pulley slips relative to the center. If that is the case, and you can't find a new or serviceable used replacement, you can get your existing unit rebuilt. Several outfits offer this service. Here is one such place:

https://damperdoctor.com

 

I would try and find out if the equivalent for the Lincoln LS 3.0 V6 was the same part. A quick search doesn't provide any definitive info but they look similar enough to warrant a closer look:

Jaguar part number: XR854185
Ford: XW4Z6312BA

https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-72795-594-514.aspx

 

I had the same problem. The part fitted to the European Ford V6 engines, whilst the same diameter, does NOT fit (the offset is very different). I did lots of research and concluded this part is specific to Jaguar only. I couldn’t find a new one anywhere (worldwide). I bought a good used part. But eventually I will get the original reconditioned (though it won’t be cheap). I was quoted about £500 to recondition it.
I also considered reconditioning it myself using liquid polyurethane. That is not possible either, due to the low melting point of polyurethane. Sadly, there aren’t many options. You will probably find some for sale online, as I did, but they will not be in stock and are unavailable (on constant backorder). I wasted months waiting for a new one that was listed as ‘in stock’ that turned out to be unavailable. The problem is the seller won’t tell you it is unavailable, just that it didn’t turn up with the rest of their monthly order. After the same excuse several months in a row, I got my money back and bought the used part for £30.

Oh, I forgot one other option. Heat resistant silicone flue sealant might work if you prepared the metal correctly (you need an etching primer IIRC). I didn’t try it as I was unable to find out if it would work or not. I did see some jokers using JB weld to bond the two pieces of metal together on youtube but I very much doubt this would be a sensible long term fix.

 

Or is the replacement needed due to an oil leak, caused by groove worn where the seal makes contact? If so, a repair sleeve is available, National #88187:

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...ir+sleeve,5408

The kit is a thin stainless steel sleeve and installation tool. The sleeve increases the outside diameter by a whisker, but the seal has enough give to compensate. I've installed one on my pickup several years ago. It works perfectly and saved the expense of replacement.

 

Hello! You gave me such a helpful reply to my post last year. I meant to go searching for the part, but then got quite sick and then the project got away from me.

Now back to hunting down this part... the link you posted with the list of OEM numbers is no longer valid. Would you be so kind as to tell me how to find those OEM numbers?

Other people also posted helpful advice but yours seemed the most promising.

Thank you very much for your time.

 

Looks like the page address changed. Here's the top level URL, which should hopefully stay constant:

https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.com/


Near the top of the page, select "Jaguar Parts" and then your model. From there, select "Engine" and then "Crankshaft and Pulley", and finally "V6 Petrol". That should lead you here:

https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.../brand/jaguar/


Item #5 is your pulley, which they call a crankshaft damper. The details are broken down by VIN, but they are all superseded to XR854185.

Going back to an earlier question, what is wrong with the existing pulley?

If the outer sleeve has slipped relative to the core, see the previous message about having yours rebuilt.

If oil is leaking due to a groove worn where the seal rides, check out this repair:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...cement-278413/

 

Karl, thank you so much for your quick and helpful reply. (And thanks to everyone else who replied with helpful suggestions.) You are a hero!

I know very little about cars, unfortunately, so I don't know precisely what the problem with the crankshaft pulley/damper is. All I know is the car was making a high-pitched whirring sound, whether idling or in motion, and my long-time, highly effective and professional mechanic diagnosed the problem. He told me the part I have now isn't working and to try to find a new one. (He explained to me how the part works but that was over a year ago and I forgot what he said.) He searched for a new part for several weeks but could only find used and he thinks it's always safest to get new parts when doing a car repair.

I'm going to do one last search on the good ol' interwebs for a new part (as another user here said they did fruitlessly for months), and then show all of your helpful advice and insight to my mechanic if I can't find a new part. The rebuild that you and others alluded to might be the best option here. I really admire the user who worked on it himself!

Thank you Karl and everyone else!

 

I searched everywhere, found several places selling them, but none in stock…anywhere. Waited for months with it on back order. It never came. Eventually, I bought a used one after giving the breaker specific instructions on how to remove it without damaging it.
I kept my original. I intend to get it reconditioned. I was quoted about £500 to get it properly reconditioned.
I hope you are able to get it sorted.
I forgot to mention you cannot get a Ford equivalent, so far as I am aware. I bought a Ford one, but the offset was totally wrong. Leading me to the conclusion that it is a Jaguar specific part. However, I got one from a Ford Mondeo, not Lincoln. Maybe the Lincoln one would work…?

 

It would be good to know if the Dorman 594-514 or equivalent is the same or not ...

 

More possible part numbers, but unfortunately none are confirmed to fit. See post #89:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...5/#post1469631

 

The Mazda one doesn’t fit.

 

I’ve just ordered a Lincoln one. We shall see if it fits…

 

Thank you for the heads up on the Ford "equivalent" being a poor match. And I feel your pain about thinking you have found a place that will send you the part, only for them to say it's on permanent back order when you follow up!

I think I'm going to have to order the best-looking used crankshaft pulley I (or my mechanic) can find. I like your idea of holding onto the original for reconditioning. I contacted "The Damper Doctor" https://www.damperdoctor.com/ in California and he said he would recondition for US$400. No discussion of shipping charges. Maybe that would be worth looking at for yours?

 

Possibly. If you can wait until the Lincoln one I ordered arrives, I can tell you if it fits or not.