Dead instrument cluster!!!! Will it start with used one? P1638 code, dead cluster.
#1
Dead instrument cluster!!!! Will it start with used one? P1638 code, dead cluster.
Details for Jag mechanics:
I was diagnosing code P1638 step by step and found that instrument cluster is bad.
Step G195523t35 (from ALLDATA)
Resistance is checked between data link connector pin 6 and 14 (yellow and green wires)
If resistance is between 50 and 70 Ohms, cluster is bad. Please verify if you have real Jag manual.
For all:
I'll go and get cluster tomorrow. Questions:
Which year to which year fits? Mine is 2003(not 2002.5)
Will engine start with "new" used cluster?
Where is odometer mileage memory? Which mileage will it show?
Thanks.
I was diagnosing code P1638 step by step and found that instrument cluster is bad.
Step G195523t35 (from ALLDATA)
Resistance is checked between data link connector pin 6 and 14 (yellow and green wires)
If resistance is between 50 and 70 Ohms, cluster is bad. Please verify if you have real Jag manual.
For all:
I'll go and get cluster tomorrow. Questions:
Which year to which year fits? Mine is 2003(not 2002.5)
Will engine start with "new" used cluster?
Where is odometer mileage memory? Which mileage will it show?
Thanks.
#2
Do not connect another.
If you try to start it will go into anti-theft and you'll need a dealer tool to get it out of that.
What ohms do you have? As you can see from the electrical guide, the CAN terminators are in PCM (aka ECM) and ICM and 120 each (so in parallel 60). They're resistors and not prone to failure whereas connectors, wires, etc all are.
2002.5 (UK) = 2003 (US)
If you try to start it will go into anti-theft and you'll need a dealer tool to get it out of that.
What ohms do you have? As you can see from the electrical guide, the CAN terminators are in PCM (aka ECM) and ICM and 120 each (so in parallel 60). They're resistors and not prone to failure whereas connectors, wires, etc all are.
2002.5 (UK) = 2003 (US)
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Do not connect another.
If you try to start it will go into anti-theft and you'll need a dealer tool to get it out of that.
What ohms do you have? As you can see from the electrical guide, the CAN terminators are in PCM (aka ECM) and ICM and 120 each (so in parallel 60). They're resistors and not prone to failure whereas connectors, wires, etc all are.
2002.5 (UK) = 2003 (US)
If you try to start it will go into anti-theft and you'll need a dealer tool to get it out of that.
What ohms do you have? As you can see from the electrical guide, the CAN terminators are in PCM (aka ECM) and ICM and 120 each (so in parallel 60). They're resistors and not prone to failure whereas connectors, wires, etc all are.
2002.5 (UK) = 2003 (US)
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Thanks for your responses! Very important info!
Resistance was about 55 Ohm.
I am including test 35 from ALLDATA.
Please verify it is wrong.
I spent a few hours trying to download JTIS21. Unfortunately it doesn't work. About a week ago I successfully downloaded on my dad's computer, it worked fine.
What is normal CAN voltage?
Resistance was about 55 Ohm.
I am including test 35 from ALLDATA.
Please verify it is wrong.
I spent a few hours trying to download JTIS21. Unfortunately it doesn't work. About a week ago I successfully downloaded on my dad's computer, it worked fine.
What is normal CAN voltage?
#5
I went to a Jag dealer to talk to mechanics. They said most likely bad instrument cluster and showed a box with 2 cluster, I guess 04-05, gauges were full circle, not semi circle(03).
BTW, instrument cluster says "Ford". Fords around my year (03) take used clusters with dealer programming.
I'll check P1638 code for 03 LincolnLS, possibly better description
BTW, instrument cluster says "Ford". Fords around my year (03) take used clusters with dealer programming.
I'll check P1638 code for 03 LincolnLS, possibly better description
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