S-Type / S type R Supercharged V8 ( X200 ) 1999 - 2008 2001 - 2009
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Fuel injector plugs help 3.0 s type 2005

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 12, 2023 | 12:27 PM
  #1  
heinekenstar's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: California,inland empire
Default Fuel injector plugs help 3.0 s type 2005

Had a blown head gasket and paid a guy to fix it. Well that guy sucks should've done it myself. Any way the fuel injector plugs are two colored black or tan/brown I need to know which ones go to which side of the motor. The manual and wiring diagrams show which color wires go to each cylinder but for some reason the colors don't match any of my wires. Well the green wires match up but they all have them. But if you know which side the connectors go to it would help me save a lot of time. Thanks
 
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2023 | 04:05 PM
  #2  
heinekenstar's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: California,inland empire
Default

Was really hoping for a little help here. The repair manual shows all 6 injector plugs as black my car has 3 black 3 brown. None of the colors in the wiring diagram match my injector harness. Could someone with the same black/brown plugs post a picture or just say which bank goes to which color please. I don't know how else to check them I don't have the magic 5 point star security bit to pull the pcm harness and trace them. Thanks .
 
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2023 | 06:22 PM
  #3  
NBCat's Avatar
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 6,068
Likes: 2,983
From: Newport Beach, California
Default

The Electrical Guide for MY2005 onward is attached below.

Refer to page 63 for the colours of the wires going to each injector with the injectors numbered with reference to the diagram on the left.
 
Attached Files
File Type: pdf
S-Type-Electrical-2005on.pdf (4.71 MB, 49 views)
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2023 | 06:31 PM
  #4  
heinekenstar's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: California,inland empire
Default

I have that guide. That is where it says all the connectors are black. All my ground wires are green with pink stripe it says blue or something and none of the other colors do not match my wiring. I've stared at it and my car and it makes no sense
 

Last edited by heinekenstar; Jul 1, 2023 at 06:40 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2023 | 06:38 PM
  #5  
heinekenstar's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: California,inland empire
Default


I think you can see the wires and plug for the front two injectors. I've swapped them but it runs both ways poorly I might add both ways have misfires and fuel trim issues
 
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2023 | 06:43 PM
  #6  
heinekenstar's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: California,inland empire
Default


 
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2023 | 03:19 PM
  #7  
NBCat's Avatar
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 6,068
Likes: 2,983
From: Newport Beach, California
Default

Sorry, I'm trying to understand why your particular vehicle has a different wiring loom to all other MY2005 X202s and beyond. There must be a logical explanation.

Perhaps it would be best to remove the inlet manifold and take photos of the entire area along with the wiring looms and connectors.

Sometimes going back to the beginning is the only way to solve a situation like this.
 
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2023 | 05:54 PM
  #8  
JagV8's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 27,520
Likes: 4,910
From: Yorkshire, England
Default

Could it be another MY wrongly thought to be 2005?

The VIN has the MY...
 
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2023 | 06:55 PM
  #9  
heinekenstar's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: California,inland empire
Default

I purchased the vehicle with 42k miles on it. As you can see in the picture my ground wires are green with pink stripes all 6 of them are the same. Given the milage I believe they are original. I downloaded the wiring guide here. Is there another wiring guide available where the wires match my colors? I haven't seen one. My vin is:SAJWA01T95FN50612. thank you again for taking time to try and help me.
 
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2023 | 01:26 AM
  #10  
JagV8's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 27,520
Likes: 4,910
From: Yorkshire, England
Default

Thanks - yep, MY 2005.
 
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2023 | 01:37 AM
  #11  
heinekenstar's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: California,inland empire
Default

Ok I'm pretty certain that the way it is in the picture is correct. Found vacuum leak causing the poor running conditions and now everything is pretty stable. So if anyone ever has this issue the black plugs go to bank 1 and the brown plugs bank 2. Next on the list...figuring out why a/c compressor 6not coming on and hot air is blowing. It's going to be a wiring issue I think. A couple of times it worked fine both times right after I had the radiator out . Not sure about the guide for help.🤞
 
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2023 | 05:28 AM
  #12  
S-Type Owner's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,797
Likes: 684
From: The wilds of Montana
Default

More often than not, the problem is the DCCV and not the wiring. A failing DCCV can also take out the climate control unit as an this creates an excessive current draw which fries the traces on the PCB inside the unit.
 
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2023 | 06:23 AM
  #13  
heinekenstar's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: California,inland empire
Default

Thanks for the pointer. That was one of the 1st things I replaced on this car and checked the climate control module out also. It was later when I replaced the radiator and the a/c condenser was loose and hanging and I put it all back that it worked. And again same circumstances it worked again. Both times only for about 10 minutes. . I have to figure it out soon though. Temps are getting over 100°f here.
 
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2023 | 09:36 AM
  #14  
S-Type Owner's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,797
Likes: 684
From: The wilds of Montana
Default

One thing to check is the transducer at the right hand side of the condenser. Be careful though. it is on a schrader valve that only seals via an o-ring at the base. I had mine fail and the Jag dealers will try to sell you the entire aluminum piping assembly, rather than just the sensor.

If you have a refrigerant leak and the system pressure falls below a certain threshold, the control module will inhibit the engagement of the compressor clutch. One other item to check is the AC compressor relay in the engine compartment fuse box. A simple "swap out" test with another known good relay will suffice there.
 
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2023 | 11:55 AM
  #15  
kr98664's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 4,906
Likes: 2,314
From: Oregon
Default

Originally Posted by heinekenstar
Next on the list...figuring out why a/c compressor 6not coming on and hot air is blowing...
Here you go, written just for you:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ol-how-185002/

You may have more than one active fault. Use a thermometer to determine if the "hot air" is warmer, cooler, or the same as ambient.

 
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2023 | 04:59 AM
  #16  
heinekenstar's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: California,inland empire
Default Update: was wrong on the fuel injector harness.

In my picture it is backwards. Long term fuel trims ended up way crazy as it leaned and richened the wrong banks. And a/c update. It blows cold on the passenger side and hot on the driver's side. Guessing no power to driver's side of the dccv and default position is open closes when power to the valve.

Screen shot of you tube video. If you zoom in you can see the brown plugs. (According to the wiring guide they are all black) bet his grounds are green w/pink stripes too. I think the guide is wrong on all of it. The repair manual has problems too. Setting the timing and follow the guide. At end to check if correct the marks on intake cam heads are different. Doesn't say "damvb" on backs of mine just a rectangular depression. And only one side lined up not both.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
scottpeterd
XJS ( X27 )
4
Oct 5, 2021 04:21 AM
doorjok
S-Type / S type R Supercharged V8 ( X200 )
26
Aug 8, 2021 04:42 PM
XxMerlinxX
F-Type ( X152 )
34
Aug 6, 2021 01:57 PM
silvertonesx24
XJ ( X351 )
10
Sep 19, 2020 04:10 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:58 PM.