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Ciao at everyone, I have a problem on the xenon headlights on my 2007 S-Type 2.7. The car is not widely used and today I noticed that the xenon headlights no longer turn on. I opened the electrical box in the engine hood and intercepted the relay of the left headlight and moving it the headlight turned on well. Unfortunately, the right headlight does not turn on, but on contact with a very short light pulse and remains off. On the instruction booklet it is written that there are no lamps to replace.
Thanks to those who can give me directions
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I think someone said there is a separate fuse for the left and another for the right headlights; I tried searching for the thread but cannot find it now. Recheck the fuse and look for the right HL fuse if you have not already done that.
Might be an idea to check F11 for left and F23 for right main beam in the passenger compartment fuse box. Check out the youtube video about those fuses: Look in youtube for "Jaguar S-Type fuses".
I am a little bit confused (but I might be wrong) that you have a relay for Xenon lights, as I thought that only HID has a relay...
R10 in the engine compartment would be the left light and R13 right. Thus, if R10 and R13 are indeed the relays for your headlights and if you can indeed make your left light work by moving R10 (but not the right by moving R13), it might be an idea (while ignition and lights are switched off) to remove R13 and put R10 there and see what happens.
If the failure is indeed with the relays, and if it is possible to open the relays, check, if there is corrosion on the contacts in the relay and if so, remove the corrosion. But if the relays are the problem and they cannot be fixed, buy new relays.
Obviously, if the lights do not work, it is also possible that bulbs are blown.
Yes your head lights have replaceable bulbs. They are DS1 bulbs.
Common and available everywhere.
You mention two different problems?
If you can power up the headlights from the fuse box but not from inside the car that is not a head light problem?
But only one headlight stays one when powering it this way and the other one just flashes and then goes out.
The cheapest way to fix this will be to remove both headlights and swap bulbs and/or ballasts from side to side and see what's failed. The one that flashed and turned off sounds like a bad ballast?
Can you remove the headlights from the car?
Have you ever changed bulbs?
Then you need to find out why you can't turn the lights on from inside the car.
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@ Clubairth1: Ah, you learn something everyday... So Xenons are HID... That always confuses me, if the same thing has 2 different names. HID-option in X-Type was one of the main reasons as to why there was non way to carry-over anything from the Ford CD132 lightswitch to the X400 (=X-Type). The light-switch design was my responsibility in the X400 design team in 1998 in Coventry.
@ BBG: Depending on how big the HID bulbs are, you may be able to just have sufficient space behind the headlamps to swap them, if not, it means: frt. bumper off...
Look at figure 08.2. You will see relay R10 for the left headlight, and relay R13 for the right.
Start by checking the four fuses for the system:
Under the hood, check fuses F34 and F14.
In the primary junction box (inside the cabin, just forward of the right front door) check fuses F8 and F25. The wiring diagram is a bit unclear about fuse F8. If that fuse is not present, check F9.
Next, do a click test of the two relays. Turn the key to the On position. (You don't have to start the engine.) Put your finger on relays R10 and R13, and have a helper turn the headlights on and off. You should feel the two relays click in response. This confirms the control circuit is operating properly and the relays are responding. This does NOT confirm the relays are actually sending power to the headlights. The click test only confirms the electromagnet inside the relay is responding when energized.
If either relay does not click but all fuses are good, try swapping with another relay of the same size. Make sure your fog lamps work, and relay R11 would be a good donor. If the relay now clicks, the original was bad.
If both relays pass the click test, check for power at the headlight ballast. There should be two wires. Check for power on the brown wire, and a good ground at the black wire. If no power, try swapping the respective relay with a known-good donor.
If still no power at the ballast, remove the relays and inspect the prongs for discoloration. This means the relay overheated. If too hot, the sockets in the fuse panel can be affected. In minor cases, you get a little corrosion that can often be cleaned by reseating the relay a few times. In severe cases, the metal in the sockets no longer grips tightly. If you can access the back of the panel, you can gently squeeze them tighter with pliers, but this does not always last.
You can test the grip of the sockets by cutting a test strip of metal the same thickness as the relay prongs. Check each socket individually to make sure each one grips properly.
If you've got good power and ground at the ballast, you're looking at a bad ballast and/or lamp. I'm not familiar with the details of the lamp not being replaceable. Is the ballast/lamp one sealed unit?
Thanks I thought they were DS1 bulbs. You can try to change the bulb without removing the lights but it's tough. I just go ahead and remove them to prevent damage and make it easier to inspect for other problems.
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Fari La configurazione di base sono i vecchi stand by alogeni
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Sì, i tuoi fari hanno lampadine sostituibili. Sono lampadine DS1.
Comune e disponibile ovunque.
Lei parla di due problemi diversi?
Se riesci ad accendere i fari dalla scatola dei fusibili ma non dall'interno dell'auto che non è un problema di fari anteriori?
Ma solo un faro rimane uno quando lo alimenta in questo modo e l'altro lampeggia e poi si spegne.
Il modo più economico per risolvere questo problema sarà rimuovere entrambi i fari e scambiare le lampadine e / o i reattori da un lato all'altro e vedere cosa non funziona. Quello che lampeggiava e si spegneva suona come una cattiva zavorra?
Puoi rimuovere i fari dall'auto?
Hai mai cambiato lampadina?
Quindi devi scoprire perché non puoi accendere le luci dall'interno dell'auto.
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Ho scoperto che era la lampada allo xeno D2S danneggiata. Ora, però, ho un altro problema: quando accendo i fari il motore funziona e posiziona correttamente il gruppo di sinistra, mentre quello destro la luce guarda il terreno molto vicino. Mi hanno detto che deve essere ripristinato tramite la presa diagnostica. Ho provato con due meccanici ma il loro tester non rileva i dati dei fari. Hai qualche consiglio?
Hi BBG,
I guess you forgot to switch to English... Anyway: So your right headlights needs to be adjusted higher, because it currently directs the main light-output too low to the ground? There is one thing about Xenon/HID headlights, I still do not understand: Is that system using the exact same hardware as a standard headlight? I mean, does it have the same kind of headlamp-leveling feature? If yes, then I think, you might have a very common problem with your headlights, which would be fixable, but a lot of work involved. I just did that on mine, and I wrote a thread about it:
Hi BBG,
I guess you forgot to switch to English... Anyway: So your right headlights needs to be adjusted higher, because it currently directs the main light-output too low to the ground? There is one thing about Xenon/HID headlights, I still do not understand: Is that system using the exact same hardware as a standard headlight? I mean, does it have the same kind of headlamp-leveling feature? If yes, then I think, you might have a very common problem with your headlights, which would be fixable, but a lot of work involved. I just did that on mine, and I wrote a thread about it:
Hello Peter,
Thank you for your kind reply, but my Xenon headlights are standard self-leveling and do not need to be modified.
The problem occurred when I replaced the right headlight bulb, when reassembling all the low beam and high beam headlights, after the motorized low-high excursion it is positioned at the bottom. They tell me that the ZERO should be carried out via the diagnostic socket.
Hi, Bruno from Italy
hi
if I remember right the bulbs are d2s as they have seperate ignitor, where d1s have a built in ignitor, thought they may also fit, never tried, just know the one in my s-type are d2s
also before unplugging the headlight you have to disconnect the battery or the self leveling will stop working and can only be reset with jaguar ids/sdd, or I have a icarsoft that will also reset them
cheers
Joe
[QUOTE=Joedotcom;2584312]ciao se ricordo bene le lampadine sono d2s in quanto hanno un accenditore separato, dove i d1 hanno un accenditore incorporato, pensavo che potessero anche adattarsi, mai provato, basta sapere che quello nella mia s-type sono d2s
anche prima di scollegare il faro
devi scollegare la batteria o l'autolivellamento smetterà di funzionare e può essere ripristinato solo con id / sdd jaguar, o ho un icarsoft che li
resetterà anche saluti
Joe [/ QUOTE]
Ciao Joe,
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BBG Joedotcom brings up a good point that a number of us with self-leveling headlights on an S-Type got involved with. The self leveling head lights need to be disconnected AFTER the battery has been disconnected or as he says it requires an SDD session to reset this.
It's not clear from reading your post but do your head lights do the up and down sweep when the car is first started?
If not then that's one problem.
If you lights are just aimed too low and the self leveling system is working there are mechanical adjusters to put them where you want them. Note these are plastic and with age get brittle and there is a good chance when you put a wrench on them they they will break. The good thing is this is so common there are after market kits with replacement plastic gears if you need them.
BBG Joedotcom brings up a good point that a number of us with self-leveling headlights on an S-Type got involved with. The self leveling head lights need to be disconnected AFTER the battery has been disconnected or as he says it requires an SDD session to reset this.
It's not clear from reading your post but do your head lights do the up and down sweep when the car is first started?
If not then that's one problem.
If you lights are just aimed too low and the self leveling system is working there are mechanical adjusters to put them where you want them. Note these are plastic and with age get brittle and there is a good chance when you put a wrench on them they they will break. The good thing is this is so common there are after market kits with replacement plastic gears if you need them.
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It's not clear from reading your post but do your head lights do the up and down sweep when the car is first started?
If not then that's one problem.
Yes, the headlights sweep up and down but sit low. The right group, on the other hand, works correctly.
Ciao Bruno - Italia
if you pulled the headlight connector with the ignition on the steppers will aim to the floor for a while. after a few ignition cycles it will correct
you can force it into calibration mode and move it up and down with a scan tool but pretty much never needed
Ciao,
I have tried more than twenty times to turn the key and then turn on the headlights, as a result I have obtained that the engines work correctly but the right headlight group is always low. I also tried to repeat twice with the engine running but no changes.