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Replace 2000 Donnelly mirror with 2004 Gentex Mirror

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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 07:48 AM
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Default Replace 2000 Donnelly mirror with 2004 Gentex Mirror

My Donnelly mirror, like many, has succumbed to the liquid failure. Instead of having it repaired or taking my risks with a used one I decided that a Gentex replacement would be my best bet since its more readily available and considerably cheaper.

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Broken Donnelly on the right, Gentex on the left


The mounts, Gentex is round


Cut both mirror mount ***** off with a hacksaw


Attach them. Mine is welded, however JB weld or a metal epoxy will work just fine for this task. There are some other options, like a roll pin that would also work if you do not have (or have access to) a welder.


Paint to match


Wire it up




Mount and done - $25 well spent.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 10:03 AM
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Nice job!


What vehicle was the Gentex intended for?
 
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 12:21 PM
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I believe this one came out of an XK8 but possibly an XJ8 is the same.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 01:45 PM
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Awesome write up with pictures! Thanks!
 
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 04:23 PM
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To OP,

What functionality did your original mirror have? I'm guessing as a minimum, Auto headlights with light sensitive dial?

Are all these features available and functioning correctly with your Gentex mirror? If so, are the wires the same colour?
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Thanks.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 05:01 PM
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I had a Gentex mirror set up using this method temporarily until I was able to repair my original - the Gentex mirror stuck out a bit further than OEM (mostly my fault when building) and I don't believe it had the auto headlights feature. I actually have the pinout for my gentex, ill pull it up at the end here. The gentex I had was GNTX-177 which has the compass and temp features. The compass is a separate module you just need to sticky tape somewhere, and the temp gauge seems redundant (climate controls have it) so I didn't bother to wire it.

I repaired my Donnelly since I wanted the auto-lights feature... Naturally it doesn't work for some reason, but the mirror's been fine so far.

Pinouts:
gentex
1-12v ign
2-ground
3-reverse interrupt
4-outisde +?
5-outside -?
6-temp sensor
7-temp sensors

oem
1-white-+12v ign
2-grey-reverse interrupt
3-blk-ground
4-yellow-"cell"-
5-green-"ti s"-
6-brown-"hood"-

The pinouts will be different for the OEM if you have a 00+ or rain sensing I believe. I don't remember what pins 4 5 6 were on the OEM, I think those bits in quotes were from the circuit board inside the mirror. My guess would be that "hood" would be the auto-headlights output. One of those will be the outside mirror feed. Not sure about the remaining one.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2017 | 03:04 AM
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Thanks for the reply nilanium. I saw another post later, also stating that the auto lights would not work. This is a feature that I've been using for almost 10 years and would like to maintain.

My preferred option is to have my original unit repaired with the 'non leak gel' . But I'm in the UK. I understand some people have had their unit shipped internationally to this US company. So perhaps I'll contact them.

​​​​As this issue affects a few other makes - BMW M3 seems to come up often - I was hoping for a local company for the repair.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2017 | 03:08 PM
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Probesport,
Great job.!
How did you extract the large pivot ball from the gentex mirror.
I did figured out the donnelly,
But the Gentex, I just don't want to start yankin'and breakin'.
Thanks!!
Bill

Broken Donnelly on the right, Gentex on the left


The mounts, Gentex is round
 
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Old Jun 23, 2017 | 03:20 PM
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If the back of your Gentex has the extension with the ***** on each end, then you could do what I did. I cut the ball off the OEM window mount, cut the mount off the Gentex's ball nearest the gentex mount, tapped the ball, ran a bolt thru the oem mount thru to the ball, then jb welded it all tight. You still get the mirror-side ball for adjustment, the only difference being that this setup moves the mirror back a couple inches.

If yours has a different mount setup that won't work of course.
 
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