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Old Mar 15, 2019 | 04:45 PM
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I have something as rare as hen's teeth, a 2004 X-Type 2.5 with a manual trans. In fourth and fifth gear, on anything more than light acceleration, the trans seems to slip out of gear, like the clutch isn't fully engaged.

The clutch totally failed on me about 120,000 miles ago, so is it time to replace the clutch or is the pedal adjustable?


The car has 247,000 miles on it. Many major systems have been either replaced or repaired, so it's like a new car.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2019 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumbleweed
I have something as rare as hen's teeth, a 2004 X-Type 2.5 with a manual trans. In fourth and fifth gear, on anything more than light acceleration, the trans seems to slip out of gear, like the clutch isn't fully engaged.

The clutch totally failed on me about 120,000 miles ago, so is it time to replace the clutch or is the pedal adjustable?


The car has 247,000 miles on it. Many major systems have been either replaced or repaired, so it's like a new car.
what about the clutch? when was it last changed? maybe it's on its way out
 
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Old Mar 15, 2019 | 06:03 PM
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I'm thinking it's on the way out too, just want confirmation before I spend more than the car is worth to get it fixed... lol
 
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Old Mar 15, 2019 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumbleweed
I'm thinking it's on the way out too, just want confirmation before I spend more than the car is worth to get it fixed... lol
don't take my word for it, I have no actual working experience in the clutch/transmission field, just youtube videos
 
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Old Mar 15, 2019 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumbleweed
I'm thinking it's on the way out too, just want confirmation before I spend more than the car is worth to get it fixed... lol
I guess book value of your car is about 1500 or less. If makes sense to repair, if you do it yourself. You can probably sell it for 500-700 as is on craigslist, depending on exterior/interior.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2019 | 08:23 PM
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Uuuummmm.....120,000 miles is not abnormal for a clutch to bite the dust, particularly if you do more in town driving than freeway. You can replace it yourself, not really rocket science type of repair. Alldata says 16 hours, but that is an experienced mechanic charging you out the butt for labor. That's why the cost is so high, not the parts.

I'd also replace the slave cylinder while in there just for g.p. And the dual mass flywheel on petrols (gas) are not as susceptible to the "wobble" failure as diesels, but check it anyways.

Partsgeek kit includes the slave cylinder for just under $250.
 

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Old Mar 15, 2019 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumbleweed
I have something as rare as hen's teeth, a 2004 X-Type 2.5 with a manual trans. In fourth and fifth gear, on anything more than light acceleration, the trans seems to slip out of gear, like the clutch isn't fully engaged.

The clutch totally failed on me about 120,000 miles ago, so is it time to replace the clutch or is the pedal adjustable?


The car has 247,000 miles on it. Many major systems have been either replaced or repaired, so it's like a new car.
This is not clutch. Try flushing transmission with ATF.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2019 | 01:17 AM
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Yeah car5, flush a MANUAL transmission with ATF, smfh........
 
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Old Mar 16, 2019 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Dell Gailey
Yeah car5, flush a MANUAL transmission with ATF, smfh........
Certainly cant do any harm. On the other hand there is no way it's going to help or do any good!
 
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Old Mar 16, 2019 | 08:51 AM
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Alldata also says that you should remove the engine to do the clutch.
Other sources say it should take 6 hours.

I don' t have the facilities here to do the job myself.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2019 | 08:56 AM
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very common problem:
worn out forks don't engage gears completely
 
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Old Mar 16, 2019 | 07:28 PM
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If it's slipping (versus popping out of gear) it's almost definitely the clutch. Popping out of gear (ie the shifter actually moves back into neutral) is a different issue and trans related). Slipping when applying significant torque in higher gears is the classic first symptom of a worn clutch. Since the clutch is actuated hydraulically there's no possibility of an adjustment issue like in a mechanically activated clutch or failure mode that would result in a slipping clutch.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2019 | 08:31 PM
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Old Mar 17, 2019 | 12:57 AM
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@Tumble = you can do it by not removing the engine. Take a look on youTube for a video.

Quote =" trans seems to slip out of gear, like the clutch isn't fully engaged."

Note: NOT FULLY ENGAGED, not "popping" out of gear.

Classic clutch sign.
 

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Old Mar 17, 2019 | 09:21 AM
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