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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 06:50 PM
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Passing by a trailer truck carrying some metal parts, one metal piece smashed the rear of my right door violently and didn't let go until it pulled the curved metal mold from the foam channels. Good heavens it did not break the window but the way it pulled from the clips ripped off one piece of the foam and twisted another one. I ordered the replacing part but I am very confused with the foam channels that will support it and I do not find anywhere how the underside looks like untwisted and with no missing portions. Could somebody direct me to a drawing/photograph/video, please? Thank you so much.
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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 09:12 PM
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We really need a couple of pictures to be of help.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 07:36 AM
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I took a picture of the (double faced?) strips ("channels") trying to reposition the twisted one but the glue underneath is a whole mess. Upper ripped portion cannot be fixed. The second picture shows the replacement trim containing three clips(?) attached (as external parts) with holes inside: how to use it, please? Can YOU show me a helpful picture? Thank you so very much.

upper twisted foam strip gluey and loose

the replacement trim with 3 clips toward the window
 
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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 11:21 AM
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It has been awhile since I changed mine, but I know the tabs are not for mounting. The foamy like material you found is double backed tape. When I did mine I removed the tape completely using WD-40 and then installed the new piece using Black Trim Adhesive. I put a nice thick bead down the center of the rubber mounting surface.
If you check the tabs they should have a small line on the them where they will snap off. I think the were a part of the manufacturing process. I snapped them off and then lightly sanded off any burrs.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 11:58 AM
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I understood that the double face tape is the "foamy" "channels" but I don't understand what to do with the tabs with holes in them in order to "snap off". There is no small line on them where they will snap off. They are simply a 90 degree continuation of the curved metal trim. Besides the holes clearly indicate a "screwing". The only description I got over the internet is scary: Remove the rear window. Remove the upper window felt. This will make it possible to remove the screws that secure the quarter glass assembly. here are 1 or 2 nuts that must be removed from the door... this will be simple to verify as you will already nave removed the door card. The quarter glass, "C" shaped quarter glass trim, rubber gasket that secures the quarter window, and the window felt track come out as an assembly. Do not remove the "C shaped" quarter glass trim by using the Armstrong Method. It is epoxied to the assembly." Now, I do not need to remove the "C shaped" quarter glass trim as it was already removed by the savage trailer truck debris attack. I simply want to attach the new one. Tell me please what to do with the three tabs with holes in them, as they cannot "snap off." Just double face tape will not resist at the first highway trip. Thanks a lot.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 12:41 PM
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[QUOTE=marcela;2107829]I understood that the double face tape is the "foamy" "channels" but I don't understand what to do with the tabs with holes in them in order to "snap off". There is no small line on them where they will snap off. They are simply a 90 degree continuation of the curved metal trim. Besides the holes clearly indicate a "screwing". The only description I got over the internet is scary: Remove the rear window. Remove the upper window felt. This will make it possible to remove the screws that secure the quarter glass assembly. here are 1 or 2 nuts that must be removed from the door... this will be simple to verify as you will already nave removed the door card. The quarter glass, "C" shaped quarter glass trim, rubber gasket that secures the quarter window, and the window felt track come out as an assembly. Do not remove the "C shaped" quarter glass trim by using the Armstrong Method. It is epoxied to the assembly." Now, I do not need to remove the "C shaped" quarter glass trim as it was already removed by the savage trailer truck debris attack. I simply want to attach the new one. Tell me please what to do with the three tabs with holes in them, as they cannot "snap off." Just double face tape will not resist at the first highway trip. Thanks a lot.

The info I have high lighted in RED are for changing the rear quarter window GLASS. There are nuts that hold the window assembly in place. The second area high lighted shows the trim is glued on. If you take a thin feeler gauge and run it along the edge of the LEFT side trim you will find it slides along the edge and doesn't have any TABS. It is glued on. Most of the exterior trim and badges on a Jaguar are held on with double back tape (side door moldings, rear badges) and they stand up well to highway speeds.
You can score the tabs and gripping them with wire pliers with a square end snap them off.
If you are still hesitant, you might want to contact your supplier or talk to the folks at SNG Barratt or Welsh Enterprise for additional advice. They are forum sponsors and parts suppliers and you can get their phone from their web site.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 02:23 PM
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The JTIS has procedure
 
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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 03:20 PM
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So I simply cut the tabs with holes off (is this the "snap off" meaning?) and glue the trim with Permatex adhesive sealant black silicone (the same I used to fix a side mirror smashed by some heroic firemen passing by which holds very well for over a year already) between the double face tape? E.G. there is no need for these tabs? Did I understand correctly? Is this so simple? Wonderful! Thank you, thank you, thank you.


As a side note I still wonder then why was the original ripped off by the trailer truck debris just passing by?
 
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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 06:48 PM
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I don't recommend permatex silicone. Permatex makes an EXTERIOR TRIM ADHESIVE get a small tube of that.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 09:09 PM
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Oops. Too late. Although there was not too much room beside the double face tape, as at the time I fixed it I did not see your post, I did add some silicone adhesive at the back of the mold (the curved inside part). What is the worst that can happen now? And also what is JTIS that Dell Gailey is talking about?
Thank you so much for your advice, it did help me a lot.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 02:35 AM
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 10:14 AM
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Since you have mounted it I would just to see if you can wiggle it by hand. If it is solid you are going to be ok. If it feels like it is moving you can use a hair dryer or heat gun to heat it up and remove it, to start over. Most likely you will be fine.

JTIS is the Jaguar Technical Information System, basically electronic tech manual documents that are the same as the dealer uses
 
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 08:20 PM
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For the moment it is very solid. The side mirror plastic triangle with a broken/missing corner that I fixed a year ago by attaching the original mirror's corner that I cut lengthwise using the Permatex adhesive sealant was more glue challenging and it is still strong. Though this black silicone adhesive needed --then-- clamping which I could not do in this window trim situation. I give it two more days and after I drive Mona I'll let you know more. You've been very helpful with your clear and focused explanation which meant a lot to me focusing which could not be done by a general pointing to a JTIS help. I hope the double face tapes are strong enough by themselves (without screws and additional adhesives) in car trimmings as they used to be when I did my trimmings on my first car, a TransAm 72 years ago. THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your reassuring clarifications.
 

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