Looking for some help in confirming the jack points for a 2012 XF

Looking at previous threads/ discussions and the attached picture, it shows the 4 jacking points ....but I was not able to figure out which piece of the car they are referring to especially for the front.

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...5/#post1167945

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...points-144102/

Anyone has a clear picture of the correct jacking points for the Jag XF ? Pinch weld location is very clear and let us not get into the pinch weld discussion that was covered already

Thanks in advance

 

Link doesn't work.
But the jacking points (for the supplied scissor jack) are where the pinch welds are (most but not all models of XF have little triangle marks on the lower sills pointing towards them), or are you talking about the axle stand points which are different?

 

As the XF is derived from the S-Type you could try its places. (In the forum, or see the workshop manual.)

 

Fixed the link. Thanks

I am NOT referring to the pinch weld jack points but the jack points at the front that are a bit way under the car as shown in the workshop manual and the diagram in the previous discussion. Attaching an image which I think is being refereed in the manual

 

 

Doesn't the diagram answer your question? Your photo is zoomed in very narrowly, but it appears to be the left side of the car (upper part of the diagram), in which case your jack point is on the lighter colored beam halfway down its length.

 

Yes I find the front jacking points are under the car so far it's hard to get a jack or lift arm on them.

Also if you have an STR be aware that the passenger rear jack point has a plastic cover protecting the battery cable. This is removed with one bolt otherwise you will destroy the plastic cover. I don't know if other S Types have this cover or not?
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Diagram with black spots highlighting the jack points gives an overall idea but I wasn't sure. Attaching another image from front driver side a bit zoomed out.

You are right, the light colored beam with three holes seems to be the area for the jack point. Any other thoughts anyone? Don't want to put a hole in the floor board

 

Those do look the same as the S-Type.

(Mine didn't have the cover - or the cable in the way.)

 

The XF is just the S Type with a new body/drive train. The under body and suspension are identical.

If you put an XF and a S Type/Lincoln LS side by side on a lift they have little to no differences underneath as you would expect.

JagV8 is your shield missing?
From the JEPC it looks like all S Types were equipped with the shield?

Here is the picture; Note it's item 1.



The part number has not been changed either?


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I suppose it must be missing - but there's no cable either. Re-routed on RHD car?

 

Back to the topic Is the light colored beam shown in the photo is the right place for the front jack?

 

Yet again, it depends on what you mean by "jack".
For the OEM scissor jack, NO. You can't reach it with that jack and the shortish stock winding handle, which unfortunately is built into the jack so it's difficult if not impossible to replace it with a long winding handle .
For an axle stand, YES.
For a trolley jack, YES and NO.
A trolley jack can be used on the OEM scissor jack pinch weld spots (NOT the place you have pictured) but it can easily bend the pinch weld protrusion - been there done that - and it's best to use a rubber "puck" with a slot in it that fits around the pinch weld.
A trolley jack can also be used on the pictured spot, but it's difficult to get it to reach under far enough and still have room to pump the handle.
Many times I have used a trolley jack with a puck on the pinch weld spots to initially raise the car, THEN slid an axle stand under the pictured rail for added safety.

 

Thanks a lot. I was referring to jacking up with a trolley jack at the pinch weld and putting an axle jack at the light colored beam in the picture

Will be careful with the pinch weld :-) Rather than jacking up one side, thinking of jacking up both sides together at the pinch weld ( with a puck/ small wood plank on top of the trolley jack ) and then put the axle jack at the inside beam

 

Yep, that's the best way.
Be warned though, you need to pump the trolley jacks up as high as they will go before you can get the axle stands under the axle stand points. At least that's how it was for me with the "low entry" trolley jacks which I needed for my lowered XFS, with an unlowered XF and normal trolley jacks maybe not so much. Or else use "short" axle stands, but then you won't have a lot of room to work under the car.

 

Yes, that rail next the exhaust is suitable for a (trolley) jack.

 

I forgot to add, for simple jobs like changing a wheel or working on the brakes you really only need to jack up one wheel at a time (with a trolley jack, not the OEM scissor jack which is only meant to be used for roadside emergency wheel changes), and there is no need to slip axle stands under the axle stand points. It's when you need to get right under the car, such as when removing the undertray, that you really need to use axle stands as well as trolley jacks. Also, when I do this I leave the trolley jacks in place so I have four support points for added safety, and I use wheel chocks to boot. The last thing you want is for a jack to collapse or the car to roll, a few years ago I used two scissor jacks on the rear end of a car (I was painting the brake calipers) and one broke and collapsed, dropping that side of the car onto the floor and the rear quarter panel up against the brick wall of the garage. I was lucky I was on the other side of the car when this happened otherwise I may have been pinned and I wouldn't be here to tell the tale!

 

Also Jaguar recommends that you DO NOT use the rear end housing as a lift point. I know you are working on the front end of the car but I was surprised to see that because I have always used that point when lifting with a jack.
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Thank you QzXFR and others. Your responses helped a lot to do it the right way.

I raised both sides at the same time using trolley jack on one side and OEM jack on the other side and then put the axle stands on the jack points. No Issues with pinch welds also.

 

The OE jack is something to avoid whenever possible (on every car I've owned).

With a puncture and otherwise stranded is the only time I resort to one.