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Could this be the BCM?

Old Dec 5, 2022 | 09:33 PM
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Ive owned this 2011 xjl for about 6 years now






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Old Dec 6, 2022 | 07:06 AM
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that does not look good at all.

Are you running a flash over your system as a tune file by any chance?

completely possible it is BCM, dealership reset??
 
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Old Dec 6, 2022 | 10:39 AM
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No flash, completely stock. Dealership did do something to the computer a couple months back, but that was for an airbag recall
 
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Old Dec 6, 2022 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrey Ak
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No flash, completely stock. Dealership did do something to the computer a couple months back, but that was for an airbag recall
The "U" fault codes are all network related. Check the service manual to see what network they relate to. For instance the medium speed CAN communication network needs to 'see' a network termination of 60 ohms. Possibly something has come disconnected and is affecting all modules.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2022 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by fossberry
The "U" fault codes are all network related. Check the service manual to see what network they relate to. For instance the medium speed CAN communication network needs to 'see' a network termination of 60 ohms. Possibly something has come disconnected and is affecting all modules.
Is the CAN BUS located in the middle back seat?
 
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Old Dec 7, 2022 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrey Ak
Is the CAN BUS located in the middle back seat?
The central junction box (CJB) is located behind there and certainly is worth a look as the medium speed CAN bus runs through this. It also runs through a number of other modules too as you'll see in the service manual. The mechanical connections can suffer from oxidizing on the pins - Mine did and kept suffering network problems, boot open faults etc. I used a small Dremel with a small wire disc to clean the male pins on the CJB, door control modules, A/C front and rear, keyless vehicle module as they all run on this network. That was 2 months ago and had no faults since. Remember to disconnect the battery if doing this to prevent shorting out anything. I used CRC co contact cleaner on the female end of the connectors before plugging back in. No guarantee any of the above will fix your issue but certainly won't hurt to try.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2022 | 02:54 PM
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Battery?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2022 | 11:19 AM
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Battery?
I'll have to look into that, replaced battery four years ago. You think insufficient amount of battery power could cause this?
 
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Originally Posted by fossberry
The central junction box (CJB) is located behind there and certainly is worth a look as the medium speed CAN bus runs through this. It also runs through a number of other modules too as you'll see in the service manual. The mechanical connections can suffer from oxidizing on the pins - Mine did and kept suffering network problems, boot open faults etc. I used a small Dremel with a small wire disc to clean the male pins on the CJB, door control modules, A/C front and rear, keyless vehicle module as they all run on this network. That was 2 months ago and had no faults since. Remember to disconnect the battery if doing this to prevent shorting out anything. I used CRC co contact cleaner on the female end of the connectors before plugging back in. No guarantee any of the above will fix your issue but certainly won't hurt to try.
Do I aquire service manual from dealer or online?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2022 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrey Ak
Do I aquire service manual from dealer or online?
Go back to the main X351 page on here. The "stickies" at the very top of the page have a link for downloading the manuals
 
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Old Dec 9, 2022 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrey Ak
I'll have to look into that, replaced battery four years ago. You think insufficient amount of battery power could cause this?
It's almost always the battery.

Your Public Profile shows that you're in the USA but doesn't show the state or city. You should add that so we can better help you. Extreme heat or cold can kill a battery.

Take your XJ to any national chain auto parts store and they will load test your battery for free.
https://www.autozone.com/lp/battery-services
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/o/...attery-install
 
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Old Dec 10, 2022 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Stuart S
It's almost always the battery.

Your Public Profile shows that you're in the USA but doesn't show the state or city. You should add that so we can better help you. Extreme heat or cold can kill a battery.

Take your XJ to any national chain auto parts store and they will load test your battery for free.
https://www.autozone.com/lp/battery-services
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/o/...attery-install
Got a new battery today, didn't change anything. Also went through the CJB and none of the male pins seemed oxidized. I've set up an appointed with a diagnostic shop to see if maybe they could figure out what's going on. Thanks for the time and effort everybody put in though!!
 
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Old Dec 10, 2022 | 06:48 PM
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DID U EVER FIGURE OUT THE PROBLEM CAN THE central junction box JUST BE RPLACED WITH NEW ONE OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE PROGRAMMED
 
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Old Dec 10, 2022 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dontay23
DID U EVER FIGURE OUT THE PROBLEM CAN THE central junction box JUST BE RPLACED WITH NEW ONE OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE PROGRAMMED
No idea yet, the diagnostic shop will take a look at it on Jan 4th
 
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Old Dec 11, 2022 | 08:17 AM
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If you find oxidation in a plug or on pins I found that Deoxit will eat the corrosion up without scrubbing. I was very surprised at how thoroughly it cleaned the electrical plugs. It's a bit expensive but compared to other contact cleaners I find this to be the only one that removes the corrosion.
Deoxit Spray



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Old Dec 11, 2022 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrey Ak
Got a new battery today, didn't change anything. Also went through the CJB and none of the male pins seemed oxidized. I've set up an appointed with a diagnostic shop to see if maybe they could figure out what's going on. Thanks for the time and effort everybody put in though!!
Don't rely on eyeballing. It's good preventative maintenance whilst in there anyway.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2022 | 11:52 PM
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If you have access to a diagnostic tool....first thing to do is clear all fault codes, drive (if you're able) and then have a look at the codes that reappear and compare with your pics on your first thread. That way you'll know what were historic codes and what is currently causing you grief.

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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 05:11 PM
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Was looking here as my sister in law's XJ was doing similar, advised her to get new battery... Shop finally discovered that the windshield washer was leaking and pouring fluid into the fuse box - many pages of electrical fault codes!
 
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 08:57 AM
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If that happened I hope the shop is aware that corrosion will move up inside the wires from the junction box. This is invisible and has caused many hours of problems after the junction box was replaced. Not very common but has been reported.
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