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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 11:26 AM
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2013 XJ 3.0 SC water pump needs to be replaced. While I note the 5.0 has several plastic pics that should be swapped out as well, is this the same for the 3.0?

Anybody have some pics, write-up or DIY info?

The WP seems straight forward but like the VW and Audi vehicles, all the plastic crap breaks, cracks, crumbles when touched, need to know what to plan for.


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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 01:19 PM
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How many miles? Is it leaking?
 
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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 11:52 PM
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How many miles? Is it leaking?

Yes, it is a friend's vehicle and it was leaking. Also the rear O-Ring for the oil cooler was beat, flattened out and it slid off too easily in my opinion so he is going to pick up a new one.

I do have a question however, on the plastic tube that goes from the water pump to the oil cooler, should the tab be facing up or down? It seems to fit properly on the pump when it is facing down however when I removed the pump it was facing up.

The tab seems to fit better when it is in a shaved spot on the water pump but then it faces down on the engine side, when removed it was definitely pointing up.

Which is correct?


 
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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 10:14 AM
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At the top of the first page of this Forum is a "Sticky" thread for the Workshop Manuals. Hopefully, you'll find the answers to your questions there.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by silentdub
2013 XJ 3.0 SC water pump needs to be replaced. While I note the 5.0 has several plastic pics that should be swapped out as well, is this the same for the 3.0?

Anybody have some pics, write-up or DIY info?

The WP seems straight forward but like the VW and Audi vehicles, all the plastic crap breaks, cracks, crumbles when touched, need to know what to plan for.


Appreciate your feedback.
My 2015 XJ 43K Miles is currently at the shop
 
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Yvette Shields
My 2015 XJ 43K Miles is currently at the shop
Why?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 01:46 PM
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Why?
Coolant was leaking from it. I sent it to Land Rover/Jaguar dealership and they stated water pump and hoses needs replacement. Quote $2447. Jaguar is stating 4 year warranty expired March 2019. I'm DISSATISFIED to say the least.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 05:22 PM
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@Yvette Shields It sounds like they want to do the proper repair including lines and hoses that can become brittle. Can they send send you the recommended repairs and parts list and we can give you a proper evaluation? You need to understand an XJ is not an inexpensive car to own, but there are few cars as much fun to own and drive.
 

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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 05:54 PM
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[QUOTE=Mark SF;2135028]How many miles? Is it leaking?[/QUOT 43K Miles
Yes, it's definitely leaking
 
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 07:19 PM
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@Yvette Shields You need to understand an XJ is not an inexpensive car to own, but there are few cars as much fun to own and drive.
That is an understatement only a Jaag owner could make. Probably selling mine after having it a couple of years. Extended warranty is expiring and mine has cost about $10,000 out of my pocket and another $30,000 out of the warranty. That isn't typical, I had a coolant pipe blow that caused an engine replacement. The engineers thought showing navigation instead of the temperature gauge when you were close to an exit was a good idea. I never saw the heat spike because it was showing nav instead of the temperature gauge. I was lucky the extended warranty covered the $25k new engine and complete cooling system replacement. Then the timing was off on the engine or after the install. $30k without warranty and about $6k to me. Then the starter, both batteries, alternator went out. Another reason i turn off eco stop every time now, no reason for the extra wear on the starter. Also a couple of vacuum leaks due to the plastic pipes. Seems like things designed in a glorified shed in the Midlands (Jags and Spitfires) are great on performance and hell on maintenance. I love the car but there are expensive design
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 11:30 AM
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Yes. Look for the poster "Bigg Will".
He has documented the water pump repair very well with pictures. He has an XFR.
It's worth reading for sure!
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by silentdub
2013 XJ 3.0 SC water pump needs to be replaced. While I note the 5.0 has several plastic pics that should be swapped out as well, is this the same for the 3.0?

Anybody have some pics, write-up or DIY info?

The WP seems straight forward but like the VW and Audi vehicles, all the plastic crap breaks, cracks, crumbles when touched, need to know what to plan for.


Appreciate your feedback.
Just got mines back from the dealership because no one in the area wanted the job. Cost was $2663 for parts and labor.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Yvette Shields
Just got mines back from the dealership because no one in the area wanted the job. Cost was $2663 for parts and labor.
Any chance of posting the list of parts that they used?
 
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 01:43 PM
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let me know if this is suffice
 
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 01:58 PM
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That's about what my extended warranty paid.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Yvette Shields
let me know if this is suffice
Yes that's super, thanks. I hope my water pump goes during the CPO extended warranty. But not when I'm far from home

I'm afraid repairs like this are typical on the German brands too. My Audi A6 water pump failed at 60K, and the cooling system was shot on my BMW 525 at 50K. The water pump was fine, but the radiator and expansion tank were both cracking.
 

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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Yvette Shields

let me know if this is suffice
So they changed out the "Y" pipe and upper manifold/pipe at the same time so I wonder if you had the old 2 piece crimped style. it's a shame given the amount of labor that the didn't change the rear heater manifold and flexible pipe running under the supercharger to the throttle body. It would only be around $150 for parts and a small amount of labor and then you'd have all new plastic in the hard to reach places. When I did mine it cost around $600 for the pump, gaskets, "y" pipe, front upper manifold and rear heater manifold, heater manifold to throttle body hose and coolant reservoir bleed pipe. Plus a couple of days in the garage.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2019 | 09:46 AM
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Isn't the water pump a known issue with pre-2015 (2010-2014) XJ's...?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2019 | 01:29 PM
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The water pump is the number one failure on ALL 5.0L engines. That has been the only repair I have ever had on my 2014 XJR and have owned it over 2 years now.
It went out at 32K miles and we have seen much lower mileage than that on other failures.

At last count I believe we are on revision #7 of the water pump.
And be sure and use the latest 3909 pump as is posted above on the receipt.
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Old Dec 1, 2020 | 06:28 PM
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Default 2015 XJ 3.0 41,500 miles water pump leak/failure

For all you x351 3.0 owners who think that the water pump leak / failure only happens to 5.0's; I strongly suggest you reconsider and have your coolant system at least pressure checked. I pulled up to a traffic light in my 2015 XJ 3.0 only to have the front half of the car engulfed in steam and that sickening sweet smell of coolant boiling off a hot engine thinking....Aw crap, this can't be happening to me, I'm not a 5.0! But thank you God it happened as I only have 7 weeks left on my CPO warranty. Pump, rear coolant manifold assembly, outlet pipe, gaskets, hoses, coolant, engine bay wash, car loaner, 1.5 day turn around......all no charge, no hassle, no attitude (actually they were very pleasant)! Merry Christmas to me!!
 

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