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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 01:39 PM
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Hi everyone,

My first post so thanks in advance for your feedback.

My 2003 Xj6 has developed an issue whereby when moving off it will spasmodically hang/jerk between what i think is 2nd and 3rd gear - then eventually it changes down.

On one occasion it held in one of the gears and then the gearbox warning light came on. I switched the engine off and the warning light cleared and the gearbox returned to normal.

Any thoughts would be much appreciated - the car has done 60,000 untroubled miles!
 
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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 02:32 PM
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It likely needs a TCM reflash (software update). Also it will help if you replace fluid and filter. I had similar in 2011. There is a fault detector that detects pressures generated whilst changing; if out-of-limits, it flags a fault and puts car into 'Limp Mode'. It was explained to me at my local main agent that normal wear in the gearbox can result in excessive ratio-change pressures giving rough changes and eventually a fault flag.

Why we have to have this excessive complexity only Jaguar and ZF can tell us. Give me a decent Borg-Warner BW66 3-speeder anytime !!
 
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Old Apr 22, 2014 | 07:27 AM
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Anyone else any thoughts on this?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2014 | 10:02 AM
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That's the first (and cheaper option). The next is to have the transmission valve bodies (I think that's what they're called) replaced... (dun ask how I know......)
 
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Old Apr 22, 2014 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Fraser Mitchell
It likely needs a TCM reflash (software update). Also it will help if you replace fluid and filter. I had similar in 2011. There is a fault detector that detects pressures generated whilst changing; if out-of-limits, it flags a fault and puts car into 'Limp Mode'. It was explained to me at my local main agent that normal wear in the gearbox can result in excessive ratio-change pressures giving rough changes and eventually a fault flag.

Why we have to have this excessive complexity only Jaguar and ZF can tell us. Give me a decent Borg-Warner BW66 3-speeder anytime !!
Fraser

Thanks again for the feedback but just wanted to correct an error on my part ie the issue occurs when the gearbox is moving upwards ie from second to third - rather than downwards ie from third to second.

Would this make any difference to your view on the likely problem?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2014 | 05:06 PM
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Fraser

Thanks again for the feedback but just wanted to correct an error on my part ie the issue occurs when the gearbox is moving upwards ie from second to third - rather than downwards ie from third to second.

Would this make any difference to your view on the likely problem?
No, in fact that is when mine played up ! I think there is a TSB about this somewhere.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2014 | 06:49 PM
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Other than the dealers there are 2 transmissions specialists that may be able to help, Bristol Transmissions and Mackies Transmissions in Glasgow.

Mackies is THE A rated ZF partner in the UK.

Not sure about Bristol although they can probably help I'm sure, possibly a service, filter / oil change and a re flash will resolve your issues?

Why not call either and see what they say...........free advice perhaps.

Just a thought...
 
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 12:14 PM
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Can someone confirm what TSB is?
 
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 06:56 PM
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TSB - Technical Service Bulletin
 
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 02:57 AM
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Update

I have been informed of a PO382 code on gears 2 & 3 from the diagnostics.

Can anyone shed any light on this?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 03:15 AM
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Default PO782 code ??

Sorry - that should have read PO782 as the code on the diagnostics
 
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 03:49 AM
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This might be this TSB mentioned

http://www.jagrepair.com/images/TSB/...erformance.pdf

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