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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 08:03 AM
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Unable to start engine - steering column locked displays on ip ?? What can I do?
 
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 11:31 AM
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Engine etc details would be a start!
 
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 07:22 PM
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From Nick's profile....

Vehicle Info:
XJ super v8 2004.
89000 miles
 
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 07:57 PM
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I HATE mystery cars.(but thanks for the detective work Watson)
 
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 09:04 PM
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Nick is a first time poster, so we just need to encourage him perhaps to incorporate his car details into a signature so it appears in any posts and updates he makes.
If you would be so kind Nick........helps us help you.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 09:15 PM
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Two things to try.

1. open driver door and manually lock and unlock the drivers door repeatedly. Back-and forth several times. The put key in and give it a try.

2. If the above doesn't work, push to reset the inertia cut off switch.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2023 | 06:03 AM
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tried both ideas but not successful?
 
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Old Jan 17, 2023 | 03:52 PM
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you could try disconnecting the battery, touching touching both cables together for 30 seconds. Open drivers door, manually lock it, reconnect battery and unlock the door with the key fob. May or may not work. Have you tried another key? Sounds like it has stopped communicating with the transponder. You may need to read the codes with SDD, icarsoft etc. You can download the tech manual from the sticky thread https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...enance-246865/ Look at the antitheft section somewhere around pages 164 or 5. It explains all the components and how the steering column lock gets it's power.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 12:30 AM
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Thanks for your reply but I cannot find anti theft section or pages 164/165 .I am new to the forum and I will try to get some help. Thanks again.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 04:04 AM
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Don't feel bad! I'm not sure which of the tech guides was meant, either. Maybe the workshop manual (item 21 on the web page linked to), or there are ones actually called Technical Guide (under item 18).
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 11:46 AM
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Sorry for the confusion but yes, #18 Technical Guide from the sticky thread posted link above or just download HERE. Then starting on page 165 is the Antitheft section which explains the components which power the steering column lock (SCLM).
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 03:53 PM
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Hi all, I’m the chap helping Nick with his jag. The trouble code stored B2169 which I think specified the steering lock is stuck or the motor is faulty. On insertion and removal off the key I can here a couple of clicks from the direction of the steering lock actuator but it’s such a pig to get to to do any tests. We are going to try to remove it. Nick didn’t say at least I don’t think he did, that the steering wheel is not locked- it turns. As a replacement new is no longer available does anyone know if a part from another car can be coded in to work ok?

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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 04:41 PM
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The thread states steering column locked and non starter. But b2169 is SLCM malfunction. There is a sensor on the SLCM electric motor that determines lock and unlock modes. If you can hear the motor working then the sensor is bad. It may be locking and unlocking but the it doesn't know it is. The whole piece can be changed without programming.
 

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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FreeWifi
The thread states steering column locked and non starter. But b2169 is SLCM malfunction. There is a sensor on the SLCM electric motor that determines lock and unlock modes. If you can hear the motor working then the sensor is bad. It may be locking and unlocking but the it doesn't know it is. The whole piece can be changed without programming.
ah thanks that’s good to know. Just to be clear, the column is not locked and the lock motor does not actuate. I believe the instrument panel gives a warning “steering column locked” but this is not the case.

thanks for your help
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 07:17 PM
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The front electronic module (FEM) provides the ground supply and rear electronic module (REM) provides the power supply line to the steering control module (SCLM). The warning light is getting the info from the sensor on the motor which seems to think it's locked even though it is not.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 08:54 PM
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column lock module is busted

in IDS you can delete that piece of garbage by reconfiguring the cluster
 

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Old Jan 20, 2023 | 07:34 AM
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This has very litle to do with Jaguar.
At the turn of the century I worked for Invensys Inc, what used to be BTR (British Tire and Rubber) Among other things the division made Steering Colomn Locks for Corvettes. It was housed in zinc die cast housing. It had requirements to unlock steering colomn in very short time, like a second or less, when actual locking tonque was pinch with stearing shaft and housing. Without wiggling steering wheel the unlocking forces are quite high,as you can guess.
To achive required force motor was turning worm making nut move along the worm. Space constraints from OEM were so tight, that there were no room to have motor stop within reasonable time without activator hitting end stop with same force close to one needed to withdraw tonque. Space constraint lead to very thin die cast walls.
Housing wall would crack. As result Sensor would indicate steering colomn is unlocked but it was. In one case failure manifested itself locking steering wheel in a car moving at excess of 90mi/hr in Arabian desert...if someone fonders, there were no human life lost.

I know, this sounds like a war storry. this thread brought up memories I wanted to share.
 
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