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Old 07-13-2016, 12:34 AM
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If one wanted to perform a burnout in their XJR by way of a neutral drop, is the transmission robust enough to take it? What about the brake stand method? Does the car have the torque to really get the tires smoking? You'd have to have the traction control turned off (that is if your is even working at the time).

Of course this is purely a hypothetical question as no one would ever do something so uncouth in a bespoke English saloon built for gentlemen.
 
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You will destroy your rear end with a neutral drop. Then your trans.

You don't need to neutral drop. Just punch it with the traction control off. Brake stands always work.


Neutral drops are just plain asking for something to break.

But wouldn't you also be required to have an adult in the car?
 
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Old 07-13-2016, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by WaterDragon
You will destroy your rear end with a neutral drop. Then your trans.

You don't need to neutral drop. Just punch it with the traction control off. Brake stands always work.


Neutral drops are just plain asking for something to break.

But wouldn't you also be required to have an adult in the car?
The adults get left behind for childish things.
 
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Old 07-13-2016, 04:50 AM
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You mean like this?
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or like this?
 
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I believe the 'R' version with the Mercedes gearbox has a 'rev-limiter' in Park or Neutral.
2500 or 3000????

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Old 07-13-2016, 09:47 AM
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I would never do a neutral drop in an auto unless I had the uttermost disrespect for the car and have been fortunate to partake in such scenarios.

As Watersragon said, brake stands with traction off work great and I always found smoking the tires off by punching it with traction off was never a problem either Childish? In an unsafe manner yes, but generally I disagree. Cheers to wanton tire distruction!
 
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Don't work on the 3.2l though! Not enough power
 
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:52 PM
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I did one unintentionally after an apparently sleep walking driver pulled out with no care given in front of me. It was either I burn rubber or err calmly get out my car @ the next light & scold/wake them up.
 

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Old 07-13-2016, 08:48 PM
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You should have more than enough power in an XJR. However, I wouldn't suggest an neutral drop, as this is asking for something to go wrong, either with the diff or the gearbox. My VDP has more than enough power (N/A motor) to spin the rear wheels in D with the trac ON! If you're wanting to do a burn out, brake and gas method all the way in an auto car. Even if the trans could take that kind of abuse (it's not built for that). It will just cause unnecessary wear and premature failure. These cars' tranny's are NOT CHEAP!!!
 
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Old 07-13-2016, 09:41 PM
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trans in drive, press trac button, floor it. one tire fire all day! Unless you do a lsd/x300/whatever diff swap if youre mechanically or financially inclined.
 
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Originally Posted by grandell
You mean like this?


or like this?
That last pic i suspect they were aided in breaking traction thanks to the wet down.
 
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Originally Posted by motorcarman
I believe the 'R' version with the Mercedes gearbox has a 'rev-limiter' in Park or Neutral.
2500 or 3000????

bob
Correct, it hits the limiter at 3000 in park or neutral.

I still don't understand the "why" part of the neutral drop. The R has enough power to smoke the tires in 2nd while moving, N drops are for underpowered cars that need to spin up to break the tires loose.

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Originally Posted by nilanium
trans in drive, press trac button, floor it. one tire fire all day! Unless you do a lsd/x300/whatever diff swap if youre mechanically or financially inclined.
Not quite... There is even in my 3.2l NA enough torque to have both wheels spining the same direction - in the wet that is.
 
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:23 PM
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Good to know. Last time I properly drove an xjr I didn't have much opportunity to fool around with it, and mine has been trapped in my driveway due to titling issues since I got it... One day, soon...
 
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Interesting discussion of how easy it is to do a burn-out in an X308 NA much less XJR, and I know mine is an X300 XJR versus X308 XJR, but I've never been able to burn out on dry pavement in the X300 XJR from a dead stop, much less in 2nd gear. Although I have seen photos of folks burning out an X300 XJR.

I've often wondered if there is something wrong with mine given it has more HP/torque than my Buick Roadmaster that will easily melt the tires off.

Anyone have experience with this all important measure of performance comparing the "ease of burn out" of an X300 and X308 XJR?

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Old 07-14-2016, 08:07 PM
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No idea if it's modified, but I happened across this while looking up xjr burnouts, x300 looks plenty capable

 

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Originally Posted by al_roethlisberger
Anyone have experience with this all important measure of performance comparing the "ease of burn out" of an X300 and X308 XJR?
Do you have traction control in the X300? If so, you have to have it turned off to do a burnout or "get rubber" in 2nd.
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I've had both X300 and X308 XJRs, and as per the pics above, never had any trouble getting the rears to spin with nothing more than a press of the Trac Off button, a little left foot pressure on the brake and a squeeze of the throttle. You don't even need to jump on it

I would NEVER even consider an N drop in these cars. Firstly, it's clearly not needed, second, gearboxes are way too expensive to replace, plus anything else you might break along the way.
 
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