I finailly drove it to work...
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I finailly drove it to work...
The engine doesn't feel right.And, on the way home, the engine started to over heat. I stopped and let it cool.
I found what may be the cause. I don't see the radiator fans coming on at all.
Also, I think the thermostat is sticking.
The temp gauge would go into the red and then suddenly drop to the middle.
It was not blowing radiator fluid anywhere, the upper passenger side hose was bulging.
And, the check engine light came on.
Looks like more parts.
Now I have to figure out why the radiator fans aren't spinning.
-C
I found what may be the cause. I don't see the radiator fans coming on at all.
Also, I think the thermostat is sticking.
The temp gauge would go into the red and then suddenly drop to the middle.
It was not blowing radiator fluid anywhere, the upper passenger side hose was bulging.
And, the check engine light came on.
Looks like more parts.
Now I have to figure out why the radiator fans aren't spinning.
-C
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Fail safe is just that, it hopefully prevents it from failing unsafely and gives you the opportunity to move your car to a safe place. For Fords its called Limp Mode.
Whenever any motor overheats, you can create an imbalance in the cylinders to the point of cracking a sleeve, boiling your oil to break down, warping a head...on and on very bad stuff.
I would most definitely replace the thermostat, but before doing that, test your fluid, it may need replacement more than likely. When you pull the thermostat, you can easily test it by either using a heat gun on it or dropping it in some boiling water to see if it works.
I would be suspicious of a failing water pump also. You'll have the system drained, so now it the opportune time to replace it.
Whenever any motor overheats, you can create an imbalance in the cylinders to the point of cracking a sleeve, boiling your oil to break down, warping a head...on and on very bad stuff.
I would most definitely replace the thermostat, but before doing that, test your fluid, it may need replacement more than likely. When you pull the thermostat, you can easily test it by either using a heat gun on it or dropping it in some boiling water to see if it works.
I would be suspicious of a failing water pump also. You'll have the system drained, so now it the opportune time to replace it.
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A good example was my old Expedition. When a coil pack was failing, I knew it, I could feel the lack of engine performance and a slight intermittent miss. Sometimes it would send a hard code right away, sometimes it would carry on for a couple weeks. For that vehicle I needed the hard code to read it to know what coil pack to replace.
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So....
Here's what I know.
I put the code reader on the and Torque listed two codes.
P0507 & P1000
507 is one of the following:
A vacuum leak
Leaking air intake after the throttle body EGR valve leaking vacuum
A faulty positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) valve
Damaged/failed/dirty throttle body
Failed EVAP system Failed IAC (idle air controller) or faulty IAC circuit
P1000 is system readiness test not complete.
Still trying too figure out what that one means.
It's possible that the P1000 is just there because I haven't driven it long enough for the ECM to run through all it tests since I disconnected the battery while I was working on repairs.
P0507 concerns me.
Visual inspection is how I'll test for vacuum leaks. I know no other way.
The other items on the list, I'm not to sure how to test.
I did get a new thermostat. I'll put that in and I'll get a new temp sensor and replace that also. I need to check the fan relay too. I am going to dive into why the radiator fans are not coming on also.
Two more things to solve and 14 more trips to the autoparts store.
-C
Here's what I know.
I put the code reader on the and Torque listed two codes.
P0507 & P1000
507 is one of the following:
A vacuum leak
Leaking air intake after the throttle body EGR valve leaking vacuum
A faulty positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) valve
Damaged/failed/dirty throttle body
Failed EVAP system Failed IAC (idle air controller) or faulty IAC circuit
P1000 is system readiness test not complete.
Still trying too figure out what that one means.
It's possible that the P1000 is just there because I haven't driven it long enough for the ECM to run through all it tests since I disconnected the battery while I was working on repairs.
P0507 concerns me.
Visual inspection is how I'll test for vacuum leaks. I know no other way.
The other items on the list, I'm not to sure how to test.
I did get a new thermostat. I'll put that in and I'll get a new temp sensor and replace that also. I need to check the fan relay too. I am going to dive into why the radiator fans are not coming on also.
Two more things to solve and 14 more trips to the autoparts store.
-C
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P0507 meaning is sometimes dependent on the year/model. I assume you have a XJ8, but what year? You can include this information in your signature, click on USER CP in the upper left of the forum page.
P1000 means the emission system internal tests are incomplete. When they are P1111 will be displayed.
P1000 means the emission system internal tests are incomplete. When they are P1111 will be displayed.
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The following pertains to the fan operation for the 1998 / X308 :
The ECT sensor is a thermistor vs. the old school variable Temp. sensitive resistor so it responds to Temp in the opposite direction of experience , as the resistance goes up outside of the sensor it believes it is seeing colder Temps. as it signals the ECU .
Check for a secure and clean connection in the pic below .
Fuses :# 67 on print = #12 - 30 amp Engine Compartment Fuse Box
..........# 63E...........= #14 - 10 amp Engine Management Fuse Box
..........# 68.............= #14 - 30 amp Engine Compartment Fuse Box
To see the fans run just remove connector and short with a paper clip , low current so no concern .
Or you can remove the sensor and heat with a heat gun to see them run .
The IAT sensor will read the same resistance value before you run the engine and warm up the coolant .
See the thread below :
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-sensor-70566/
The ECT sensor is a thermistor vs. the old school variable Temp. sensitive resistor so it responds to Temp in the opposite direction of experience , as the resistance goes up outside of the sensor it believes it is seeing colder Temps. as it signals the ECU .
Check for a secure and clean connection in the pic below .
Fuses :# 67 on print = #12 - 30 amp Engine Compartment Fuse Box
..........# 63E...........= #14 - 10 amp Engine Management Fuse Box
..........# 68.............= #14 - 30 amp Engine Compartment Fuse Box
To see the fans run just remove connector and short with a paper clip , low current so no concern .
Or you can remove the sensor and heat with a heat gun to see them run .
The IAT sensor will read the same resistance value before you run the engine and warm up the coolant .
See the thread below :
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-sensor-70566/
Last edited by Lady Penelope; 11-18-2017 at 09:47 PM.
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Jhartz (12-22-2017)
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I've been out of town for a few days.
Looks like the 30A fuse in the large fuse box in the engine bay is blown.
I've replaced it and I'll test it this evening.
I still have the vacuum leak.
I suspect it is the line that goes to the base of the throttle body on the passenger side. It was damaged the repaired badly.
-C
Looks like the 30A fuse in the large fuse box in the engine bay is blown.
I've replaced it and I'll test it this evening.
I still have the vacuum leak.
I suspect it is the line that goes to the base of the throttle body on the passenger side. It was damaged the repaired badly.
-C
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Lady Penelope (11-27-2017)
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Replaced the thermostat and housing ( Metal ) and found loads of vacuum leaks.
The brake booster vacuum line was broke and fixed badly. There is a vacuum nipple on the exact opposite side of the throttle body as the brake booster line that someone used RTV to close off and left the line that connects to it, just laying in the engine bay.
When I get back to it, I'll see if I've solved the vacuum and cooling problems.
-C
The brake booster vacuum line was broke and fixed badly. There is a vacuum nipple on the exact opposite side of the throttle body as the brake booster line that someone used RTV to close off and left the line that connects to it, just laying in the engine bay.
When I get back to it, I'll see if I've solved the vacuum and cooling problems.
-C
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Lady Penelope (12-04-2017)
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Yes on the P0328 . I will link you to a on car test later as I made a post for someone else earlier
See post # 7 :
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...000rpm-193820/
See post # 7 :
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...000rpm-193820/
Last edited by Lady Penelope; 12-21-2017 at 10:08 AM.
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