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Old 11-07-2018, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by King Charles
Wait so you're saying the 245/45/18s won't run true to size ?! It's a local Michelin showroom they also have 255/40 Pilot AS' @ display rates as well.
I can only speak on the 17" Pilot Sport A/S my rims came with, which might not be the case for other sizes / models or years.
I also think we are maybe talking details here, which 'normal' people never ever gave a thought at all ...

Mine are 255/45R17, 2012, on a 8J Jaguar rim.
They should have a theoretical outside tire diameter of ~660mm, but they are smaller by some ~10mm.
They should have a theoretical width of ~255mm, but they are closer to 235mm (measured widest point of tire).

You know I am maniacal on everything I do on my cars, and it simply did look different then it should have been looking, hence my further investigation.

However, there are large tolerances in the tire industry, and it is a very price competitive world, so maybe this is how Michelin was trying to cut some corners in 2012 with their Pilot Sports.

Finally; the spare tire came with an other brand (Hankook if I remember well), and that one is indeed larger/wider (and hence hardly fitting in the trunk ...).

 
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Old 11-07-2018, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ericjansen
I can only speak on the 17" Pilot Sport A/S my rims came with, which might not be the case for other sizes / models or years.
I also think we are maybe talking details here, which 'normal' people never ever gave a thought at all ...

Mine are 255/45R17, 2012, on a 8J Jaguar rim.
They should have a theoretical outside tire diameter of ~660mm, but they are smaller by some ~10mm.
They should have a theoretical width of ~255mm, but they are closer to 235mm (measured widest point of tire).

You know I am maniacal on everything I do on my cars, and it simply did look different then it should have been looking, hence my further investigation.

However, there are large tolerances in the tire industry, and it is a very price competitive world, so maybe this is how Michelin was trying to cut some corners in 2012 with their Pilot Sports.

Finally; the spare tire came with an other brand (Hankook if I remember well), and that one is indeed larger/wider (and hence hardly fitting in the trunk ...).
Indeed the more I research, the more reasons I can find to not commit lol. I'm going w/ 245/45 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus .
 
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:11 PM
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The plot thickens :

Turns out the display Pilots @ the great rate were long in the tooth manufacture date-wise. Researching them I found a reported tendency of cracking w/ age, so that's a no go for the displays. The shop offered me a great rate on fresh Continental DWS06.

Current candidates :

Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 : $600 (in stock)
Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus : $750 (in stock)
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus 3 (Fresh date) : $701 (After $70 mail in rebate & must be ordered)
 

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Old 11-08-2018, 10:20 PM
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With both front seats out and up in the apartment, I managed to:
- install the heating pads,
- clean up wiring,
- repair the potential meters for all seat axes, with some luck my memory should work again,
- remove all dye from previous patch-ups, and re-dye the driver seat in a probably longer lasting way.
Gonne give the car's carpet a clean this afternoon, then need to check on the rear seat heating, after which it is the reverse order to install everything again.






 

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Old 11-09-2018, 01:49 AM
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Installed a sunroof rail, old one had 2 spring broken. then installed new headliner.
 
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Old 11-09-2018, 09:31 AM
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I have the Continentals on my XJR and while they started out quiet, they have become noisy. If it were my money, I would buy the Michelin A/Ss. Great tire, no tramlining, quiet, and good for 30K miles.
 
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Old 11-09-2018, 09:40 AM
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Right rear wheel bearing grenaded on the way to work today, so that's awesome. With the weather changing for the worse here, I ordered a used assembly on ebay that will be here in a week, so now trying to manage car shuffling to get to work and back. Went with a complete assembly since I don't trust that a) I'd be able to do the bearing swap without something horribly wrong, and b) I was going to need to replace the pivot pin bearings anyway, and if the left side was any indication, the right wouldn't be in good shape. This at least buys me time. And just like the fronts, now I can take the old one, do the bearing swaps on my own time and convenience and keep them for spares. Car is paid off in a couple months anyway, then on to the next. Just gotta get through until then.
 
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlzO
Right rear wheel bearing grenaded on the way to work today, so that's awesome. With the weather changing for the worse here, I ordered a used assembly on ebay that will be here in a week, so now trying to manage car shuffling to get to work and back. Went with a complete assembly since I don't trust that a) I'd be able to do the bearing swap without something horribly wrong, and b) I was going to need to replace the pivot pin bearings anyway, and if the left side was any indication, the right wouldn't be in good shape. This at least buys me time. And just like the fronts, now I can take the old one, do the bearing swaps on my own time and convenience and keep them for spares. Car is paid off in a couple months anyway, then on to the next. Just gotta get through until then.
"And the bearing curse shall visit all whom are named Charles" the Jaguar scrolls read, lol. Just went through a rear WB ordeal myself.

Installed 2 new pillar V8 badges, with all the rear end drama I'd almost forgot how much the the faded ones bothered me, today they were alone in the spotlight lol.

Got it washed & waxed today, these cars are such a treat when running as designed & clean.



 

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Old 11-09-2018, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by King Charles
"And the bearing curse shall visit all whom are named Charles" the Jaguar scrolls read, lol. Just went through a rear WB ordeal myself
Definitely not kidding. The last year and a half has seen the front bearings replaced. Then the right replaced again. Then both replaced even again (my fault). Right rear u-joint replaced. Left rear replaced. Left rear pivot pin bearings replaced. Now the right side. Maybe I should order the left side assembly preemptively. If I didn't know better, I'd say that this thing had over 200k miles on it!

oh wait...

You're right though, clean and proper, they have hardly an equal.
 
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlzO
Right rear wheel bearing grenaded on the way to work today, so that's awesome. With the weather changing for the worse here, I ordered a used assembly on ebay that will be here in a week, so now trying to manage car shuffling to get to work and back. Went with a complete assembly since I don't trust that a) I'd be able to do the bearing swap without something horribly wrong, and b) I was going to need to replace the pivot pin bearings anyway, and if the left side was any indication, the right wouldn't be in good shape. This at least buys me time. And just like the fronts, now I can take the old one, do the bearing swaps on my own time and convenience and keep them for spares. Car is paid off in a couple months anyway, then on to the next. Just gotta get through until then.
Just be aware that there may be differences in what you have to what you receive.
My l/h inner bearing spun and has destroyed the stub axle;

I sourced a replacement and was mightily confused when I could only achieve 3/4 nut engagement until I looked at the difference in the depth of the chamfer where the cone sits;


What I intend to do is either; see if my small lathe can chuck it or go to a toolroom and get them to machine the taper further in to achieve full engagement.
One upside is that the replacement hub came with new bearings both on the stub axle and the fulcrum shaft
 

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Old 11-09-2018, 11:08 PM
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Good to know. The section I ordered is a complete knuckle assembly, including the hub and everything. And I still have a spare half-shaft in a box, so if my spline end got toasted in the day's drive, I have a backup. Should be here next week, so it's parked and I'll play automotive musical chairs until then.
 
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Old 11-10-2018, 02:57 AM
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This was from a complete hub unit marked for an X308 which is why I posted to be aware that there may be a difference
 
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Old 11-10-2018, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Robman25
This was from a complete hub unit marked for an X308 which is why I posted to be aware that there may be a difference
Oh boy. Don't make me nervous like that! lol. Guess we'll find out soon enough. Supposed to be delivered Thursday.
 
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Old 11-11-2018, 03:49 AM
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Whilst braking quite abruptly to avoid running a Red Light, my wife put her foot through the plastic side panel in the front passenger foot well, making a sizable crack. Fortunately the panel remained in one piece. When time allowed I removed the panel and carefully glued the crack together. The result came out quite well.
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That's some pretty hard braking CliveB!

But some pretty good subsequent repairs!

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Old 11-12-2018, 04:40 AM
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This was my answer to the difference between stub axles. Bolted on today, going to move the car over and remove and re-grease the right hand side tomorrow weather permitting
 
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Old 11-13-2018, 02:51 AM
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Went w/ Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 Plus @ 245/45/18, should have everything suited up by Friday.
 
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Old 11-13-2018, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by King Charles
Went w/ Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 Plus @ 245/45/18, should have everything suited up by Friday.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ericjansen
Let's hope not are else those 245's will be smoking back to the dealer lol.
 
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Old 11-14-2018, 08:13 PM
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Installed the URO upper shock plates and bushings from ROCK AUTO today. Very easy job but I don't trust URO parts in general. I'll keep an eye on these. When I had my 88 Mercedes 300SE I was told many times on that forum to NEVER use that brand. For a little over $18 I'll try them.
 

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