Electric Jag ?
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOp...9IDJ8IuNZzz2iQ
The Drag Times Tesla is also impressive and IMO best use of battery tech right now, rather than attempting both performance and range
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Hi all,
Please excuse a little star gazing.
Electric cars are the future.
A little crystal ball gazing reveals to me that in all actuality we are looking towards the total demise of the personal car as we know it, perhaps in as little as the next three decades irrespective of their motive power.
The exponential growth of A.I. Indicates to me that the true driverless car is ascending above our planetary horizon and will soon be as much a part of our everyday life as the computer or the GPS
Obviously there will many teething difficulties and many problems to surmount. There will be idiological debates, hysteria and Ludditism but as trains replaced barges and car replaced horses, the driverless car will replace the driver vehicle.
Once the technology becomes widely accepted the next step is obvious. Why own a vehicle when a company (Uber?) guaranteeing a spic and span vehicle arriving at your front door step in minutes is in existence. Trip complete ,it disappears, off on it's next journey.
The entire paradigm snowballs. Once all cars are driverless and centrally controlled, traffic problems evaporate, parking ceases to exist in turn freeing up huge amounts of urban land and accidents become a thing of the past.
Once a critical mass of driverless cars eventuates, conventional cars captained by us mere mortals will be a roadblock (no pun) to further progress and our days will be numbered.
Every new electric car on the road results in one left user of hydrocarbons resulting in the decline of the fuel station and rising fuel prices. Again once the process gains sufficient moment it will become unstoppable.
Now as a car nut I'm appalled at this idea but I guess I'll be dead by the time it becomes reality. I notice the younger generations are already far less interested in cars as cultural icons and personal statements than previous generations.
Shall we be Canute holding back the tide? I fear we are already history.
Am I experiencing dystopian delusions , perhaps, but I do believe we are witnessing the twilight of the motor car as we know it.
Advise; rejoice in your V12 and be thankful to live in a time where you can experience it's!
Regards
Al
Please excuse a little star gazing.
Electric cars are the future.
A little crystal ball gazing reveals to me that in all actuality we are looking towards the total demise of the personal car as we know it, perhaps in as little as the next three decades irrespective of their motive power.
The exponential growth of A.I. Indicates to me that the true driverless car is ascending above our planetary horizon and will soon be as much a part of our everyday life as the computer or the GPS
Obviously there will many teething difficulties and many problems to surmount. There will be idiological debates, hysteria and Ludditism but as trains replaced barges and car replaced horses, the driverless car will replace the driver vehicle.
Once the technology becomes widely accepted the next step is obvious. Why own a vehicle when a company (Uber?) guaranteeing a spic and span vehicle arriving at your front door step in minutes is in existence. Trip complete ,it disappears, off on it's next journey.
The entire paradigm snowballs. Once all cars are driverless and centrally controlled, traffic problems evaporate, parking ceases to exist in turn freeing up huge amounts of urban land and accidents become a thing of the past.
Once a critical mass of driverless cars eventuates, conventional cars captained by us mere mortals will be a roadblock (no pun) to further progress and our days will be numbered.
Every new electric car on the road results in one left user of hydrocarbons resulting in the decline of the fuel station and rising fuel prices. Again once the process gains sufficient moment it will become unstoppable.
Now as a car nut I'm appalled at this idea but I guess I'll be dead by the time it becomes reality. I notice the younger generations are already far less interested in cars as cultural icons and personal statements than previous generations.
Shall we be Canute holding back the tide? I fear we are already history.
Am I experiencing dystopian delusions , perhaps, but I do believe we are witnessing the twilight of the motor car as we know it.
Advise; rejoice in your V12 and be thankful to live in a time where you can experience it's!
Regards
Al
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alan is close to reality , some time back 20/30 yrs. a private meeting was arrainged for some people of power, about polution from motor vehicles, and other problems , like junk cars , and what to do with the acid from batteries,ETC.
there final solution was DO AWAY WITH PERSONAL TRANSPORTATION DEVICES! simple enough our generation will be long gone, and the new gens. will be brainwashed enough to accept it !
there final solution was DO AWAY WITH PERSONAL TRANSPORTATION DEVICES! simple enough our generation will be long gone, and the new gens. will be brainwashed enough to accept it !
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There is a general move away from the internal combustion engine - many governments are legislating to phase them out. How do you recharge a vehicle if you live above ground level in a high rise block of flats? What happens if you cannot park your car outside your home? Will the tangle of cables be a problem especially in snowy conditions. I am a little sceptical!
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As someone now with a large home in the suburbs I'm okay with that. But my humble beginnings as a child of a single mother is not. One day she greeted me at the gate as I walked home from school jumping up and down saying...." we own a car! we own a car!" I never will forget that day... we were free. And our path as a small family towards upward mobility and travel began. My mother could get to work easier and to a better job and to better friends. The car was a rather undesirable Ford LTD that cost $500 at the time.
Solar panel are being installed next month.
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Oh yeah, that Socialist "Slump". I actually feel far "freer" when I am on the subway (SkyTrain here in Vancouver) because I can get from my house to downtown in about 25 minutes compared to 1 hour plus in a car. I don't have to worry about traffic jams, stupid drivers, buying gas, flat tires...you get the picture. Or perhaps you prefer to live in a place like Seattle with massive traffic jams every day on the I-5. But heck, you're in your car and you're free, right?
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Oh yeah, that Socialist "Slump". I actually feel far "freer" when I am on the subway (SkyTrain here in Vancouver) because I can get from my house to downtown in about 25 minutes compared to 1 hour plus in a car. I don't have to worry about traffic jams, stupid drivers, buying gas, flat tires...you get the picture. Or perhaps you prefer to live in a place like Seattle with massive traffic jams every day on the I-5. But heck, you're in your car and you're free, right?
I do feel free when I drive to work with all my tools and I can do what I need to do to make a living. I also feel free when put my family of 7 in our gas-guzzling Escalade and we travel safely together.
I do take public transportation on occasion and it's fine but for me it sometimes doesn't make sense. Recently I took my family of 7 to the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Taking public transportation there would have cost about $38 in tariffs even if I snuck the 2 little ones under the turn styles. I chose to park in the garage directly under the museum for $45. After walking about for a few hours, we returned to the parking garage and tailgated and saved a fortune in food costs and was able to stick to our diet of healthy food choices. Choice is freedom.
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Mixed bag for sure:
1, Circa 1975, I worked in an office located in Mid Wilshire in LA. Drove the freeways twid3e a day, Not too bad, at first, only 23 miles. But, it got worse. I burned out. but, the bus company had an epiphany !!! Meandering routes that had grown like topsy gone. A decent grid system plus freeway flyers installed ! Made a huge amount of sense. One stop across from home. the other in front of my office. bit, a transfer needed mid way. Imperfect but workable. Not bad at all.
Thence came a transfer and promotion opportunity. Branch Claim manager in SF.
Bart getting under way !!! Away from HO politics !! A winner.
Dear departed and I did a recon. OK, Walnut Creek . Almost close enough to the station. A longish but doable walk or a short drive. SF station a couple of blocks from my office . Getting as seat needed some ingenuity. Done.
Then Union greed vs Management politics screwed it up big time, a couple of times. Survived with my employers help. The office car made available to five or six of us to use in a car pool. We in the East Bay, Others had other ways in.
Then left the company, Enterepreneurship. Back to the freeways, But, could avoid commute hours. Quite doable. And other easier destinations,
Do I miss the freeway in rush hour ????
Carl . .
1, Circa 1975, I worked in an office located in Mid Wilshire in LA. Drove the freeways twid3e a day, Not too bad, at first, only 23 miles. But, it got worse. I burned out. but, the bus company had an epiphany !!! Meandering routes that had grown like topsy gone. A decent grid system plus freeway flyers installed ! Made a huge amount of sense. One stop across from home. the other in front of my office. bit, a transfer needed mid way. Imperfect but workable. Not bad at all.
Thence came a transfer and promotion opportunity. Branch Claim manager in SF.
Bart getting under way !!! Away from HO politics !! A winner.
Dear departed and I did a recon. OK, Walnut Creek . Almost close enough to the station. A longish but doable walk or a short drive. SF station a couple of blocks from my office . Getting as seat needed some ingenuity. Done.
Then Union greed vs Management politics screwed it up big time, a couple of times. Survived with my employers help. The office car made available to five or six of us to use in a car pool. We in the East Bay, Others had other ways in.
Then left the company, Enterepreneurship. Back to the freeways, But, could avoid commute hours. Quite doable. And other easier destinations,
Do I miss the freeway in rush hour ????
Carl . .
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i totally dont go down town AUSTIN TX> at rush hour.
my blood pressure goes sky high, and so dont my temper!!
i dont look at it as a NICE way to live, like years on end &end&end!
my blood pressure goes sky high, and so dont my temper!!
i dont look at it as a NICE way to live, like years on end &end&end!
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