Remote start/keyless entry mod
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Not in the Jag, but a few years ago I installed a $20 Bulldog remote start/keyless entry unit in a '86 Lincoln. It took me an afternoon but was fairly straightforward and a lot of fun afterwards. You're basically just bridging the 12v Constant wire and the ignition feed wire with a button-activated switch, so I don't anticipate there being an issue in the Jag, assuming you use your wiring diagram (there's a helpful reference in the "how-to" sticky threads)
Not 100% sure, but depending on the year the keyless entry may be a bit more complicated...I think the later Series IIIs had mechanical actuation for unlocking, rather than an electric motor, which means you would have to install a motor of some sort for a typical keyless entry to work. Again, I don't have experience working on this particular vehicle, but have done it on a different one. Here's an old thread with some insightful discussion: https://forums.jag-lovers.com/t/xj-door-locks/161095/6
Not 100% sure, but depending on the year the keyless entry may be a bit more complicated...I think the later Series IIIs had mechanical actuation for unlocking, rather than an electric motor, which means you would have to install a motor of some sort for a typical keyless entry to work. Again, I don't have experience working on this particular vehicle, but have done it on a different one. Here's an old thread with some insightful discussion: https://forums.jag-lovers.com/t/xj-door-locks/161095/6
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Never did a remote start on my Jags so can't comment. Can't think of any reason, offhand, why it wouldn't be possible.
Remote keyless entry is doable on a Series III but the difficulty depends on which of three possible locking systems you have.
1) The early Series IIIs (until '82 or so) has the Lucas solenoid system where the central locking could be operated from either front door. This is because the solenoids in both front doors act as both solenoids (operating the lock linkage) and as controllers (commanding the solenoids in the other doors)
2) The mid-range Series IIIs used the Lucas solenoid system but the unit in the driver's door was a controller only. The units in the the other doors (and trunk) were slaves.
3) The later Series IIIs (roughly mid-85 to 92) used Kiekert lock motors (not solenoids). And, as with #2 above, the unit in the driver's door is a commander only...and all the others are slaves.
The Lucas systems uses relay; the Kiekert system does not.
If you have system #1 adding RKE is easy. Your RKE unit simply powers the existing relays.
If you have system #2 or #3 you need to install and additional motor or solenoid (triggered by your RKE module) in the driver's door to operate the lock linkage, imitating the action of turning the key in the lock and thus operating the command unit which, in turn, operates the slave units.
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DD
Remote keyless entry is doable on a Series III but the difficulty depends on which of three possible locking systems you have.
1) The early Series IIIs (until '82 or so) has the Lucas solenoid system where the central locking could be operated from either front door. This is because the solenoids in both front doors act as both solenoids (operating the lock linkage) and as controllers (commanding the solenoids in the other doors)
2) The mid-range Series IIIs used the Lucas solenoid system but the unit in the driver's door was a controller only. The units in the the other doors (and trunk) were slaves.
3) The later Series IIIs (roughly mid-85 to 92) used Kiekert lock motors (not solenoids). And, as with #2 above, the unit in the driver's door is a commander only...and all the others are slaves.
The Lucas systems uses relay; the Kiekert system does not.
If you have system #1 adding RKE is easy. Your RKE unit simply powers the existing relays.
If you have system #2 or #3 you need to install and additional motor or solenoid (triggered by your RKE module) in the driver's door to operate the lock linkage, imitating the action of turning the key in the lock and thus operating the command unit which, in turn, operates the slave units.
Cheers
DD
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Doug, you are the Yoda master of the Forum. My 79 SIII opens all doors from the passenger (US) side and yesterday I bought a 87 SIII and thought it weird that the door on that side didn't open the other door locks but the drivers door did. Now I know why. Actually, being the chivalrous gentleman that I am I like being able to open my wife's door and have that open all doors. With the 87, I have to unlock her door then go around and use the key again on my door.
With regards to keyless entry systems, Bulldog had a nice inexpensive unit that would work well on the older models (a momentary pulse of 12v+ to the relay). Unfortunately, they went bankrupt and are no longer available. Anyone have a good replacement for that? A simple keyless system with on-board relays and reasonably priced?
With regards to keyless entry systems, Bulldog had a nice inexpensive unit that would work well on the older models (a momentary pulse of 12v+ to the relay). Unfortunately, they went bankrupt and are no longer available. Anyone have a good replacement for that? A simple keyless system with on-board relays and reasonably priced?
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More than likely not. the market shrunk. Modern cars do that stuff.
Might look in to the HoTrod sites. Lots of electric stuff going on there.
For me, aye my 83 opened from the driver side. so, when I as a the gentleman I am, opened the door for my dear departed. I hads to do that pirouette thiong.
Carl
Might look in to the HoTrod sites. Lots of electric stuff going on there.
For me, aye my 83 opened from the driver side. so, when I as a the gentleman I am, opened the door for my dear departed. I hads to do that pirouette thiong.
Carl
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Bulldog is gone?! I had one (keyless entry) in my '85 GMC van and it worked great---for about 3 or 4 years until it didn't work at all. (EDIT: you can still find them on Ebay)
On a related note, how easy or difficult is it to add power locks to a Series 1? Can I take apart an S2 or S3 door and move the stuff over or is it more involved?
On a related note, how easy or difficult is it to add power locks to a Series 1? Can I take apart an S2 or S3 door and move the stuff over or is it more involved?
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