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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 05:59 PM
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So, I've had to put my ball joints off for a few weeks because my landlady watches our parking spaces like a hawk, but I've gotta tackle them. How difficult are they to do on these cars? Could I theoretically tackle them at a friend's garage in a night? Any tips from you pros? I'm swapping in the XJ40 style units.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 09:22 PM
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If you've replaced ball joints on any other car you can do 'em on a Jag and probably find that they're easier on a Jag than most others.

If you're a first timer I'd allow a full day at least.

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You really need (IMO) a spring compressor to do the bottom ones, the top ones can be done with the spring pan's weight on a solid stand or block. Getting them out of their tapers is the worst part, well worth reading the great Palm book for tips. Note carefully where the shims each side of the top wishbones go and ensure they go back where they were, also the direction the bolt heads are in on the top wishbones, the wrong way and they foul.
Also, worth changing the top wishbone inner bushes while you are at it, these are very easy to do, if you have not done them recently.
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 12:34 PM
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You really need (IMO) a spring compressor to do the bottom ones, the top ones can be done with the spring pan's weight on a solid stand or block. Getting them out of their tapers is the worst part, well worth reading the great Palm book for tips. Note carefully where the shims each side of the top wishbones go and ensure they go back where they were, also the direction the bolt heads are in on the top wishbones, the wrong way and they foul.
Also, worth changing the top wishbone inner bushes while you are at it, these are very easy to do, if you have not done them recently.
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While I'm not saying it's a great idea, I was able to remove/install my lower ball joints (1996 XJS) by placing a floor jack under the spring pan and jacking the car up about an inch above the jack stand. Of course, I was working inside my garage on a flat concrete floor, the park brake was engaged and I blocked the rear tires. I won't vouch for safety, only efficiency and effectiveness, which were both 10 out of 10 in my opinion.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 01:26 PM
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Not sure what kind of car you have, or whether it even matters.

Go get yourself some OEM upper control arm bushings and plan to do those at the same time. Should only add a little more time per side and worth doing.

Go buy yourself some Lemdoerfer ball joints. They are OEM without the Jaguar price!

Lastly, you may want to change out your tie rod ends. No need for OEM, just buy a quality brand.

While you're doing those, make sure you spend a little bit of time to remove the ABS Sensors and clean those out.

Man, I forgot what size wrenches and sockets you'll need, but the heaviest used ones were definitely the 8mm, 10mm, 13mm, 14mm. You'll need those in socket and wrench forms.

Forgot if you'll need and SAE sized wrenches, but you'll figure it out. First time? Set aside four hours for the first side, even though I know you'll do better than that. The other side should take you two.

The jack under the brake rotor worked for me, just make sure the car is on a stand and not on a jack.
 
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Thanks for all your help guys, I got the drivers side in last night. Was a bear of a job, mostly because I was so tired. I have a feeling the passenger's side is gonna be a breeze. However I now have a new rattling noise when I go over bumps and steering wanders a hair. No noise is heard when turning. I torqued the joints to 48Ft-lbs. Should I have gone to the full 55?
 
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 11:36 AM
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I just discovered that I didn't punch out the old lower seat. Could this be causing the rattle?
 
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Originally Posted by Dymaxxion
I just discovered that I didn't punch out the old lower seat. Could this be causing the rattle?
Yes, whatever a lower seat is.
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 12:37 PM
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Yes, whatever a lower seat is.
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Apparently there is a seat in the lower arm left over when you remove the old rebuildable joints
 
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 03:37 PM
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Lower control arm bushing? Good luck getting that out. That's a major project in it of itself.


I believe you'll need an alignment when you're all done. Perhaps that's what's causing the problem? (It's also why you may as well and change that tie rod if you're already in there?)
 
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dymaxxion
Thanks for all your help guys, I got the drivers side in last night. Was a bear of a job, mostly because I was so tired. I have a feeling the passenger's side is gonna be a breeze. However I now have a new rattling noise when I go over bumps and steering wanders a hair. No noise is heard when turning. I torqued the joints to 48Ft-lbs. Should I have gone to the full 55?
Does the car have an X brace? If yes, is it properly tightened? Sway bar is another area I'd check - could be loose or a bad end? Although I bought new sway bar ends for my 1996 XJS, I'm not sure they made any difference - it's an all-steel part that doesn't seem prone to wear. But, you're model may be different?
Last, have you verified that you have all of your tools? Are your upper shock bushings still serviceable (those will clunk when they have given up the ghost)?
 
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 05:35 PM
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I fitted new sealed lower joints. OE, and the offside has an annoying squeak. Make me wonder if they really have any grease in them
 
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dymaxxion
I just discovered that I didn't punch out the old lower seat.
Are you sure? I didn't think the new ball joint would even come close to fitting with the old seat in place. If someone was there before you the old seat may have already been removed.

Anyhow, if the old seats are there you gotta go back in fix that!

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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg in France
Yes, whatever a lower seat is.
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Wishbone and Balljoint-Lower - Parts For XJS from (V)139052 to (V)179736 | Jaguar Classic Parts UK


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