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I need to find a Fuel Pump Relay for my 4 litre in the UK or EU at reasonable money. The original Bosch part number is 0 332 014 113. The same relay was used in 6 litre cars (not sure about 5.3?).
After doing some research, it seem it's classified as:
- 12V Coil
- 30A switching
- Standard ISO 5-pin layout
- Normally Open switching function
- Non diode (apparently?)
A bit googling and it seems other Bosch family 0 332 014 xxx or 0 332 209 xxx relays would be compatible, particularly:
0332014150 VW / Audi, Ford, BMW 0332014112 Same spec, different production batch 0332014110 Same electrical function 0332015001 Bosch “universal” 30A relay, same footprint 0332209150 Same function, sometimes used in VW / Audi
If that's true, I can find options on eBay at ok money.
Does that sound reasonable or am I missing something that makes the original relay unique?
I need to find a Fuel Pump Relay for my 4 litre in the UK or EU at reasonable money. The original Bosch part number is 0 332 014 113.
It just so happens I have one in my hands at this very moment. Looks like it's never been used ! Anyhow.....
It's what's commonly referred to as a "dual 87" relay. It's a little unique but not uncommon
The most common configuration....which looks identical at a glance....is a switchover relay with terminal designation of 30-85-86-87-87a. You can buy 'em anywhere. Heck, Walmart probably has 'em.
The 0 332 014 113 relay has designation of 30-85-86-87-87 and performs a very different function
If you Google "Dual 87 relay" you should find lots of choices
As you can see from the diagram, the top version switches BOTH terminals, so you have two live 87s when the relay triggers.
The bottom diagram switches between 87 and 87a when the relay triggers. Just verify what sort the old one is and buy the bargain replacement! Funnily enough, Grant and I were discussing this very topic this morning on the Franco/Oz hotline - which is the only reason I know the difference!
That's really helpful. The interesting thing is that the electrical diagrams for both the 4 litre and 6 litre don't seem to imply that there are twin 87 terminals used for the Fuel Pump fitment. See pic below of the diagram for the 6 litre. It seems to show that the Injection Main relay uses twin 87s, but the Fuel Pump relays use only one 87output. In fact, something makes me think that the the relay holder may not even have had a terminal connector in the centre? Does that sound plausible? Could Jaguar have fitted a Dual 87 relay for the Fuel pumps but didn't need the second 87 terminal? Why would they do that?
That's really helpful. The interesting thing is that the electrical diagrams for both the 4 litre and 6 litre don't seem to imply that there are twin 87 terminals used for the Fuel Pump fitment. See pic below of the diagram for the 6 litre. It seems to show that the Injection Main relay uses twin 87s, but the Fuel Pump relays use only one 87 output. In fact, something makes me think that the the relay holder may not even have had a terminal connector in the centre? Does that sound plausible? Could Jaguar have fitted a Dual 87 relay for the Fuel pumps but didn't need the second 87 terminal? Why would they do that?
Highly likely; probably because they had a load of double 87s in stock/and/or did not want to risk placing a single where a double was needed. Hence the sockets (which were part of the loom and thus not susceptible to positioning error) would not have a fifth connector where it was not required.
The FP relay Socket probably, memory is still asleep, has 4 wires, where the Main has 5, so the extra is not plugged to anything, and Greg is spot on, simply using up thousands of stashed parts, like any car mob.
Using Greg's helpful link, I purchased a Bosch 0 332 019 150 cheaply which is also a twin 87, installed it today and the car started fine.
That seems to confirm that there are number of the Bosch family 30A NO twin 87 Relays that would work. I also confirmed that, as expected, only 4 terminals are wired on the holder with the middle 87 being blank, so it seems to be that a 30A NO single 87 relay would work fine, but don't quote me!
If I remember correctly on my 95 6.0, only the main relay needs the twin 87 relay but both fuel pump 1 and fuel pump 2 relays are also twin 87s. My fuel injection main relay has a red stripe on it.
If I remember correctly on my 95 6.0, only the main relay needs the twin 87 relay but both fuel pump 1 and fuel pump 2 relays are also twin 87s. My fuel injection main relay has a red stripe on it.
Rick,
That's correct, as per my post above, repeated below:
Paul
"Tks Doug,
That's really helpful. The interesting thing is that the electrical diagrams for both the 4 litre and 6 litre don't seem to imply that there are twin 87 terminals used for the Fuel Pump fitment. See pic below of the diagram for the 6 litre. It seems to show that the Injection Main relay uses twin 87s, but the Fuel Pump relays use only one 87output. In fact, something makes me think that the the relay holder may not even have had a terminal connector in the centre? Does that sound plausible? Could Jaguar have fitted a Dual 87 relay for the Fuel pumps but didn't need the second 87 terminal? Why would they do that?