XJS ( X27 ) 1975 - 1996 3.6 4.0 5.3 6.0

Found the clunk pics

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #41  
Old 08-08-2018, 04:22 AM
macdoesit's Avatar
Banned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,408
Received 260 Likes on 169 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Greg in France
Mac
Are you saying you need a nut for the new balljoint and the new balljoint did not come with a nut? If so, take the BJ with you. It is probably metric, but may well be UNF, but if you take the balljoing you can be sure to buy the correct nut. It is not a special steel or anything like that.
I was surprised that the ball joints did not come with nuts. I will take it with me to fit nut. It cut pretty easy with dremel.
Thank you Greg in France.
 
  #42  
Old 08-09-2018, 05:00 PM
macdoesit's Avatar
Banned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,408
Received 260 Likes on 169 Posts
Default

All finished, car drives great.
I want to thank you all for the help and a special thanks to (Greg In France) and (Jagboi64) without it I might not have done it and if I did would have probably got hurt.
 
  #43  
Old 10-28-2018, 02:47 PM
carsnplanes's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Brookfield CT
Posts: 495
Received 75 Likes on 68 Posts
Default

I have to replace my upper bushings as well. Because the upper arms are split, by unbolting each side from the upper ball joint, can I just remove each arm from its own side without having to remove the upper cross bar, thus not having to disturb the shims? I assume that when each arm is removed after unbolting the left and right side, the bushes can just be installed on each upper arm and then simply re-slid back on to its peg and re-secured. Is this the normal procedure to not have to remove the upper cross support?
 
  #44  
Old 10-28-2018, 03:53 PM
warrjon's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Vic Australia
Posts: 4,638
Received 2,576 Likes on 1,712 Posts
Default

I assume you are talking about the castor shims in the upper ball joint, there should be 4 shims, take note of where they are. But basically yes pull one arm off at a time. You do not need to undo the upper fulcrum from the subframe.

When you install the new bushes use soapy water NOT oil as the ROM recommends. Oil can reduce the life of the rubber and the E Type ROM recommended soapy water, I got this from a friend of mine who was a Jaguar technician.

I just did my lower bushes and with soapy water you can push the bushes in by hand, in fact one popped back out again
 
  #45  
Old 10-28-2018, 04:23 PM
carsnplanes's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Brookfield CT
Posts: 495
Received 75 Likes on 68 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by warrjon
I assume you are talking about the castor shims in the upper ball joint, there should be 4 shims, take note of where they are. But basically yes pull one arm off at a time. You do not need to undo the upper fulcrum from the subframe.

When you install the new bushes use soapy water NOT oil as the ROM recommends. Oil can reduce the life of the rubber and the E Type ROM recommended soapy water, I got this from a friend of mine who was a Jaguar technician.

I just did my lower bushes and with soapy water you can push the bushes in by hand, in fact one popped back out again
Thanks. I was really asking about not having to remove the upper fulcrum shaft. Didn't recall the actual part name. And yes, on replacing ball joint caster shims as well. I might as well replace the upper ball joint while dong the upper bushings too. The lowers seem ok.. Just the uppers were moving in and out and I can see a bit of negative camber because of it. When I hit a small bump on the right side, the steering kicks right and now I can see why.
 
  #46  
Old 10-29-2018, 02:37 AM
Greg in France's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: France
Posts: 13,338
Received 9,092 Likes on 5,355 Posts
Default

You do not have to remove or touch the upper wishbone fulcrum. You just undo the nut holding the wishbone arms each end of the fulcrum and slide the arm and bush off.
You do have to have the weight of the car on the lower wishbone though, so as to be certain the spring remains compressed, and be SURE the bump stops are NOT in contact with the subframe, before you undo the balljoint.
 
  #47  
Old 10-29-2018, 04:41 AM
carsnplanes's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Brookfield CT
Posts: 495
Received 75 Likes on 68 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Greg in France
You do not have to remove or touch the upper wishbone fulcrum. You just undo the nut holding the wishbone arms each end of the fulcrum and slide the arm and bush off.
You do have to have the weight of the car on the lower wishbone though, so as to be certain the spring remains compressed, and be SURE the bump stops are NOT in contact with the subframe, before you undo the balljoint.
You're talking about these bumpstops?

Yes, I will have the jack positioned under the spring plate effectively taking weight/pressure off of the hub and upper wishbone/balljoint assembly.
Thanks
 
  #48  
Old 10-29-2018, 04:44 AM
carsnplanes's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Brookfield CT
Posts: 495
Received 75 Likes on 68 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Greg in France
You do not have to remove or touch the upper wishbone fulcrum. You just undo the nut holding the wishbone arms each end of the fulcrum and slide the arm and bush off.
You do have to have the weight of the car on the lower wishbone though, so as to be certain the spring remains compressed, and be SURE the bump stops are NOT in contact with the subframe, before you undo the balljoint.
You're talking about the bumpstops under the upper wishbones?


Yes, I will have the jack positioned under the spring plate effectively taking weight/pressure off of the hub and upper wishbone/balljoint assembly.
Thanks
 
  #49  
Old 10-29-2018, 07:19 AM
Greg in France's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: France
Posts: 13,338
Received 9,092 Likes on 5,355 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by carsnplanes
You're talking about the bumpstops under the upper wishbones?
Yes
Originally Posted by carsnplanes
Yes, I will have the jack positioned under the spring plate effectively taking weight/pressure off of the hub and upper wishbone/balljoint assembly.
Thanks
You will have to jack up that corner quite high to get the bumpstops free. Ensure you put blocks or a secure jackstand under the sprinpan as well as the jack.
 
  #50  
Old 10-29-2018, 09:19 AM
carsnplanes's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Brookfield CT
Posts: 495
Received 75 Likes on 68 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Greg in France
Yes

You will have to jack up that corner quite high to get the bumpstops free. Ensure you put blocks or a secure jackstand under the springpan as well as the jack.
Greg, you mention "You will have to jack up that corner quite high to get the bumpstops free." Aren't the bumpstops already free with weight on wheels or when lifting/supporting from below the spring plates? When you're lifting from the springplates, the car doesn't know if it's on the ground or supported by the jack just under the spring so I would think the bumpstops would already be free. What am I missing.
 
  #51  
Old 10-29-2018, 10:36 AM
Greg in France's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: France
Posts: 13,338
Received 9,092 Likes on 5,355 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by carsnplanes
Greg, you mention "You will have to jack up that corner quite high to get the bumpstops free." Aren't the bumpstops already free with weight on wheels or when lifting/supporting from below the spring plates? When you're lifting from the springplates, the car doesn't know if it's on the ground or supported by the jack just under the spring so I would think the bumpstops would already be free. What am I missing.
When the lifting point is under the spring pan, rather than further outboard under the hub, the leverage applied to the spring is reduced. You have to remove the wheel, obviously, to change the upper wishbone bushes and you cannot use the hub as a lifting point, as that will be disconnected. So when you jack up the car under the spring pan, you will find (as you will see if you read through Mac's posts above) that you have to raise that corner quite a bit higher than "normal" to get the bumpstops free - that is, to get the spring compression forces off the top wishbones.
 
  #52  
Old 10-29-2018, 11:07 AM
carsnplanes's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Brookfield CT
Posts: 495
Received 75 Likes on 68 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Greg in France
When the lifting point is under the spring pan, rather than further outboard under the hub, the leverage applied to the spring is reduced. You have to remove the wheel, obviously, to change the upper wishbone bushes and you cannot use the hub as a lifting point, as that will be disconnected. So when you jack up the car under the spring pan, you will find (as you will see if you read through Mac's posts above) that you have to raise that corner quite a bit higher than "normal" to get the bumpstops free - that is, to get the spring compression forces off the top wishbones.
Ah, ok, I gotcha. Yes, the further inboard, the less effective compression compared to more outboard. yes,
Thanks for your clarification.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Torrid
XJ XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR ( X350 & X358 )
11
07-29-2016 09:17 PM
Lawrence
XJ40 ( XJ81 )
3
02-02-2015 09:36 PM
Lawrence
XJ XJ6 / XJR6 ( X300 )
7
10-04-2014 02:21 PM
JWT
Wheels / Tires, Suspension & handling
8
07-06-2010 03:57 AM
Frankie
XJ40 ( XJ81 )
3
04-13-2009 01:31 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Found the clunk pics



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:52 AM.