No crank weirdness
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No crank weirdness
So I just finished all kinds of work, rebuilt the transmission, and most everything in the rear suspension, I had to buy a new battery so I know this issue isn't battery related. I go to start it this morning - that final confirmation that i didn't screw anything up in the transmission lol - and nothing. Not even a relay click. The lights in the dash come on, you can hear the fuel pump, most of the lights go away like normal, but when you turn the key to position 3 to start it the brake and park brake lights both come on. What does that mean? I was just in there to bleed the rear calipers so I know its got plenty of fluid.
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Grant Francis (11-12-2021)
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Check the inertia switch. Under the A pillar on the left door. Small black box. You can check it by putting your finger on the top, there's a small hole. The switch should be pressed down. If its up it cuts the fuel and power to the starter. Useful if you get in an accident, pain in the *** if you hit a big pothole.
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I am with Greg here.
That White/Red relay to starter wire has a joiner, about the area of the transmission dipstick top. It is a male/female connector, and easier to separate than spilling your beer.
Follow it down the rear area and make real sure its is connected inside that rubber cover fiasco. Doing trans and starter has 100% fiddled with that wire.
Mine are the same as Gregs, the inertia cuts the fuel pump only, but, other markets may have other things cut, dunno.
That White/Red relay to starter wire has a joiner, about the area of the transmission dipstick top. It is a male/female connector, and easier to separate than spilling your beer.
Follow it down the rear area and make real sure its is connected inside that rubber cover fiasco. Doing trans and starter has 100% fiddled with that wire.
Mine are the same as Gregs, the inertia cuts the fuel pump only, but, other markets may have other things cut, dunno.
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This is one of those "the-hip-bone's-connected-to-the-leg-bone" type of things.
The starter relay can't operate unless the feedback inhibit relay operates. The inhibit relay can't operate unless the main relay operates. The main relay can't operate if the inertia switch has been tripped.
Simultaneously, the fuel pump relay can't operate unless the main relay operates.
Not all cars/markets would have the feedback inhibit relay; certainly not those without oxygen sensors.
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DD
The starter relay can't operate unless the feedback inhibit relay operates. The inhibit relay can't operate unless the main relay operates. The main relay can't operate if the inertia switch has been tripped.
Simultaneously, the fuel pump relay can't operate unless the main relay operates.
Not all cars/markets would have the feedback inhibit relay; certainly not those without oxygen sensors.
Cheers
DD
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Ok so i've confirmed the inertia switch was not tripped. I found that white and red wire, it seemed to be secure down at the starter, comes up and plugs into a black wire with like half a roll of electrical tape on it and then goes over to the other side and through a grommet. I will see if i can get a better look after I finish picking up eggs for the day. Its kinda hard to see stuff around the starter under there.
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Your starter relay is/probably should be wired like this:
Post C2 Brown wire, 12v "+" at all tmes
Post W1 White/black wire, ground with the trans in "P" or "N" and when the feedback relay is triggered
Post C4 White/blue wire. Might not even be there. If it is, it is not used
Post C1 White/red wire x 2. One heavy gauge that goes to the starter. The lighter gauge one goes to the ECU
Post W2 White/yellow from the key switch and white/blue that goes to a timer....which isn't important to discuss at the moment
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DD
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I agree with Doug, NOT right at all.
I suspect a dead mans switch somewhere, that has been flicked with all the work undertaken.
Go to the starter relay, find that same White/Red heavy wire, reconnect as factory made it, see what happens.
Search out that other nonsense after the beast is running and you are warm and fuzzy again.
I suspect a dead mans switch somewhere, that has been flicked with all the work undertaken.
Go to the starter relay, find that same White/Red heavy wire, reconnect as factory made it, see what happens.
Search out that other nonsense after the beast is running and you are warm and fuzzy again.
Last edited by Grant Francis; 11-13-2021 at 12:57 AM.