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Greg in France (01-09-2019)
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Ron the factory tools are available for free loan to members of JCNA or Patrons of the Coventry Foundation. Personally the threaded rods are dangerous and many have been hurt. If you wish to see more please go to www.jcna.com and review the tool loan section.
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RickE (01-09-2019)
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Doug have you ever used the correct tool/tools. With the long run of this model there are of course two very different tools. Using them is very quick and efficient plus the work area is free from all the rods. While you are a professional and understand the danger and seek to avoid it there are many who do not and there are many grades of threaded rod--some very weak!
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Weird, as Jaguar, with the right tools, would charge me €160 (1 hour work) to just compress ONE spring. Not replace them. Just ONE spring. With the correct tools...
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I would not say weird I would guess they just charged an hour. If the car is on stands/lift and the wheel is off it literally takes a min. or so. So lift car--remove wheel--get tool I can see that nearing an hour but the actual spring work did not--unless the tool is damaged. As an example with springs on the rear of the old IRS units with the correct tools all 4 can be taken apart and new shocks inserted in less than 30 mins. The screw threads are so fine most time is rotating the handle but almost no effort. Have not measured it but my guess is 5 ft lbs or so on the handle. The front coils are harder but the the winged handle is more than long enough to make the job easy. The biggest issue we have had is making sure the "owner" knows which car he has. The XJ-S uses a different tool than the XJS.
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No it doesn’t. I have both the early factory tool which is used on all XJ-S/XJS, and the later tool for XJ40 and later. You could probably use the later tool on an earlier car, but considering how small the retaining peg is vs the giant bronze wedge of the earlier tool, I’d prefer the earlier tool.
No it doesn’t. I have both the early factory tool which is used on all XJ-S/XJS, and the later tool for XJ40 and later. You could probably use the later tool on an earlier car, but considering how small the retaining peg is vs the giant bronze wedge of the earlier tool, I’d prefer the earlier tool.
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I would not say weird I would guess they just charged an hour. If the car is on stands/lift and the wheel is off it literally takes a min. or so. So lift car--remove wheel--get tool I can see that nearing an hour but the actual spring work did not--unless the tool is damaged. As an example with springs on the rear of the old IRS units with the correct tools all 4 can be taken apart and new shocks inserted in less than 30 mins. The screw threads are so fine most time is rotating the handle but almost no effort. Have not measured it but my guess is 5 ft lbs or so on the handle. The front coils are harder but the the winged handle is more than long enough to make the job easy. The biggest issue we have had is making sure the "owner" knows which car he has. The XJ-S uses a different tool than the XJS.
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Jags and MGs you are of course right--I was thinking through the entire Jaguar range of the time and should have typed XJ-6 (XJ40 ,300,and so) and all with hidden turret tops. I also agree the pin is small but the only issue is making sure the pin is not lost in transport..
To Daim---I can't explain why they charged so much. I would not have moved it from your transport and just removed it in the truck. Did you actually see them use the correct tool or did they just say they did? The other thought is many dealers and dealer techs just do not want to work on older models for various reasons.
Perhaps we should do some videos---thanks
To Daim---I can't explain why they charged so much. I would not have moved it from your transport and just removed it in the truck. Did you actually see them use the correct tool or did they just say they did? The other thought is many dealers and dealer techs just do not want to work on older models for various reasons.
Perhaps we should do some videos---thanks
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Jags and MGs you are of course right--I was thinking through the entire Jaguar range of the time and should have typed XJ-6 (XJ40 ,300,and so) and all with hidden turret tops. I also agree the pin is small but the only issue is making sure the pin is not lost in transport..
To Daim---I can't explain why they charged so much. I would not have moved it from your transport and just removed it in the truck. Did you actually see them use the correct tool or did they just say they did? The other thought is many dealers and dealer techs just do not want to work on older models for various reasons.
Perhaps we should do some videos---thanks
To Daim---I can't explain why they charged so much. I would not have moved it from your transport and just removed it in the truck. Did you actually see them use the correct tool or did they just say they did? The other thought is many dealers and dealer techs just do not want to work on older models for various reasons.
Perhaps we should do some videos---thanks
hour was was probably minimum charge. I am sure by advocating the use of the approved tool you have everyone’s best interests at heart.
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To pay for the mahogany furniture, marble floors, and chandeliers. That's why
I spent (far too) many years of my life neck-deep in dealership pricing and marketing strategy. I could write a book...on top of the others that have already been written. But, the rawest, simplest gist of the matter is that dealerships depend heavily on profits from service, parts, and body shop departments to cover overhead expenses. XXX-profit is demanded from these departments and all sorts of strategies are used to deliver it.
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I spent (far too) many years of my life neck-deep in dealership pricing and marketing strategy. I could write a book...on top of the others that have already been written. But, the rawest, simplest gist of the matter is that dealerships depend heavily on profits from service, parts, and body shop departments to cover overhead expenses. XXX-profit is demanded from these departments and all sorts of strategies are used to deliver it.
Cheers
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Greg in France (01-13-2019)
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To pay for the mahogany furniture, marble floors, and chandeliers. That's why
I spent (far too) many years of my life neck-deep in dealership pricing and marketing strategy. I could write a book...on top of the others that have already been written. But, the rawest, simplest gist of the matter is that dealerships depend heavily on profits from service, parts, and body shop departments to cover overhead expenses. XXX-profit is demanded from these departments and all sorts of strategies are used to deliver it.
Cheers
DD
I spent (far too) many years of my life neck-deep in dealership pricing and marketing strategy. I could write a book...on top of the others that have already been written. But, the rawest, simplest gist of the matter is that dealerships depend heavily on profits from service, parts, and body shop departments to cover overhead expenses. XXX-profit is demanded from these departments and all sorts of strategies are used to deliver it.
Cheers
DD
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