Hello everyone, this is my first post on the forums but I've read quite a few, and everyone seems quite willing and helpful. I have 2010 xkr. I hit a nasty pothole the other day and the car immediately developed a vibration above 60 mph. I didn't see any damage so I took it to a tire shop to see if the wheels had become unbalanced. While I was there I decided to purchase a set of Michelin 4 S. Unfortunately here is where it all starts to go bad. They could only put on 3 on the tires because they couldn't get the left rear tire off and they didn't do repairs if they broke it. So I took my mechanic and he quoted $350 to remove the wheel, mount and balance the tire, and to do an alignment. Then they said the wheel hub and bearings were rusted and would have to be replaced. Now the estimate was up to $1500. Now they said the left rear CV Axle is cracked and that jaguar is no longer making the part but there may be on dealership that has one for $1000 if they have it. So now we're up to $3000 not including the $1500 for the tires. Does this sound legit? Do these axles break easily? If they can't find the part is this part used on other jaguar cars like the xfr or xe. I'm just looking for a way out of this mess. Any advise or knowledge would be greatly appreciated.

 

Welcome to the forums Chitown7170,

Potholes are notorious rim benders. Many members, myself included, have been victims. We've also had reports of cracked wishbones with severe pothole impacts but this tale of woe does seem to be extreme both in consequences and in cost.

I'm impressed at the skill to diagnose a rusted wheel bearing without removing the wheel and brake disc but clearly any mechanic with that talent is likely to charge highly for his services . I suspect he really doesn't want the job and the quote is intended either to put you off or to make a handsome profit if you do accept.

Halfshafts do fail. JLR dealers apply a 'core charge' for replacements and refund this on return of the old unit. US members will be able to advise on parts cost and I be surprised if $1000 is correct.

This is a situation where professional labour is going to cost a lot but DIY would make a huge saving ........

Graham

 

As Graham pot holes are indeed rim benders I buckled one of mine and bent the steering rack (inner and outer rack end).

In terms of cracking a cv shaft I have only come across very few that I have seen cracked from your impact it's mostly the housing and bearings that fail in a situation like this and if this is the case a simple rebuild is possible .

Ok if the cv shaft is bent or cracked which is quite rare you are better off sourcing a second hand unit and have it sent away to a specialist to check over and or rebuild .

Also what was the reason the tyre shop gave you for not being able to remove the wheel ?



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My bet is that the tire jockey used a 3/4" socket with an air wrench and buggered the lug nuts. It happens all the time.

P.S. See my Post #6 this 2018 thread:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...g-nuts-210103/

Take care of your nuts and they'll last a lifetime!

 

Discount tire said the wheel had put on incorrectly. I have not had that wheel off since I purchased the car three years ago. So I think you're probably right. They buggered the threads and passed the buck. The shop is import specialty service. They are known to be extremely expensive. They did send photos.

 

They didn't give photo of cv axle.

 

I found a right and left set on ebay for $163, but they are from a 2008 xkr. Will these fit?

 

The first pic they've sent you is simply the c.v nut and the second pic is the c.vshaft end with the nut removed.

Would really like to see where it has been cracked all that is showing is surface rust .

To answer your questions you have a 5l I if so you need 2010 upwards anyone please correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty certain the xf and xj half shafts from a 5l will also fit .

​​​​I'm with Stuart it sounds like someone has damaged the wheel studs stopping the tyre place getting the wheel off

 

"Cant get the wheel off":

If the car's still there, inspect the lugs. Likely they spun the outer decorative skin on them with an air wrench and now the inner lug isn't turning. The fix is to use a 21mm (the socket he used with the wrench, or a 20mm if you have it) and position the skin over the inner flat. Hammer on the socket, which will deform the skin back onto the inner. The lean on it with a manual wrench and breaker bar. It'll spring loose. It's a common problem of XK's, due to Ford using crap decorative lugs. The slam of an airwrench tears the skin loose, particularly when the nut's been on there for more than three years.

That said, they screwed up your lugnuts. They owe you a new set. Whether or not they do, get the solid nuts from Gorilla -- I used a chrome solid Toyota version from them.

 

...with threads that are porked. Time for a new axle.

 

"took it to a tire shop" only use trusted tire shops with import experience.
"and he quoted $350 to remove the wheel, mount and balance the tire, and to do an alignment." I just paid $100 less. And it included all tires balanced.
"wheel hub and bearings were rusted" well, hubs do rust. but bearings certainly shouldn't be. No squeaks or other noises? I'm surprised.
"cracked axle" Suppose it can happen. Must have been one hell of a pot hole. Surprised the wheel isn't bent and that the tire didn't blister, first. Or you lost it into a corner and hit the wall?? ;-) (pardon me, I’ve got F1 on my brain)
" found a right and left set on ebay for $163, but they are from a 2008 xkr." You're braver than I am. I'd be going to the dealer for the part as Graham suggested.
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I'm not brave at all. Of course I would want to use a new OEM part.The shop representative told me again today that they are having a hard time finding this part. I don't understand what the confusion is on their part. I see the part on the dealership website. It is definitely available for purchase. They told me that jaguar doesn't make the part anymore and that they could only find ONE in all of North America, but it had been sold, total B.S.

 

Sorry to hear of your troubles. Is the car at a Jag dealer now? Perhaps walk to the parts counter?? Whenever I’ve had questions concerning parts /availability/costs, a discussion with the parts counter proved useful. Also, some jaguarforums sponsors may be able to help…

Also a search: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=2010+jagua...&t=ipad&ia=web
shows many options/suppliers/prices.

 

I wish it was. I took it to import specialty service in Nashville TN. They come highly recommended and I've used them for most of the xkr's maintenance and repairs. Which is why this is baffling. The service has always been excellent, expensive but excellent. But I will take your advice and go by the jaguar dealership. Maybe they can clear up this confusion.

 

best of luck. keep us informed.
Also know that an email to customer service at Jaguar has been helpful to me in the past.

 

4.2L axles have different part numbers than the 5.0L axles. Pro tip: Expand your search beyond the X150. For the '10+ cars, the right axle is the same across all trims and all models except for the XE. Yep... a 2.0L XF got the same right rear axle as the XKR-S GT. However, the left axle is specific to the supercharged 5.0L variants of said cars. Car-part.com is your friend and there's some axles in TN. Jaguarparts.com is also your friend so you can look up parts and cross reference part numbers.

PS: new axles are available as they're still making cars that use them. Seems like this shop doesn't know how to use the internet because all that took me about four minutes to look up... you think they know how to look up torque specs, or should I do that too?

*edit- Smitty's Auto Parts right there in Nashville has a set of axles, but you'll have to call them to get the price.

 

As a mechanic by Trade I would offer the option to my customer of new OEM or have a second hand shaft rebuilt to date I have not have one rebuilt fail on me but more importantly I'd still like to see how the shaft is cracked

 

Hey thanks guys. I really appreciate the advice and knowledge. I didn't know the left shaft was specific to the 5.0 supercharged engines. Do you think this is just a cross referencing problem. I found what looks like the part on jaguarparts.com as well. I'll check smitty's too. Thanks again everyone.

 

We conduct ourselves differently. I don't bother wasting my time trying to source parts (then at times making wrong choices) I outsource to the professionals and make it their problem.
A dealer parts department has vision onto the country and global inventory and cross referencing. And no surprises locked in pricing. And if you're nice, discounts. (First hand experience)
Cheers.