Final Fifty Convertible FS
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Final Fifty Convertible FS
I have seen about six Final Fifty coupes come up on the used car market, but this is the first time I have seen a FF 'vert for sale...
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...&modelCode1=XK
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...&modelCode1=XK
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Schmitty63 (03-13-2018)
#3
I drove it.
If you've read any of my posts about my (awesome) warranty, this is the place that gets it done. They're pricey (a Jag dealer in LA??? You don't say...) but I can attest that their service department knows what it's doing.
Anyway, I've always told them that if a sweet '14 or '15 XKR vert came in, call me. And here it is.
It's GORGEOUS, but... I just can't get past the two-tone, white-on black thing. (And no cooled seats).
And, yeah, pricey. (But super-low miles). I'm sure it will sell.
If you've read any of my posts about my (awesome) warranty, this is the place that gets it done. They're pricey (a Jag dealer in LA??? You don't say...) but I can attest that their service department knows what it's doing.
Anyway, I've always told them that if a sweet '14 or '15 XKR vert came in, call me. And here it is.
It's GORGEOUS, but... I just can't get past the two-tone, white-on black thing. (And no cooled seats).
And, yeah, pricey. (But super-low miles). I'm sure it will sell.
#4
Also, other than a little cachet among Jag owners, was there anything special about the final fifty? Those diamond-stitched seats were an option when you ordered the Dynamic Pack, right?
Oh, and... I find that suede steering wheel to be suuuuuper creepy.
Oh, and... I find that suede steering wheel to be suuuuuper creepy.
Last edited by pk4144; 03-14-2018 at 12:30 AM.
#5
A few notes from the Final Fifty Press Pack:
The are supposedly all Ultimate Black and the convertible had a black top.
The louvers on the hood are from the XKR-S GT.
There is a special badge on the centre console.
The door sills have a special inscriptions.
As noted, they all have the Dynamic and Performance packs.
The Performance Pack contributes Performance seats in Diamond Sewn stitch pattern, Performance Active Exhaust and a Jet Suedecloth steering wheel. The Diamond Sew stitch pattern on the front seat backrests and head restraints and on the rear-seat backrests is rendered in Ivory white stich over Ivory
white soft grain leather.
The are supposedly all Ultimate Black and the convertible had a black top.
The louvers on the hood are from the XKR-S GT.
There is a special badge on the centre console.
The door sills have a special inscriptions.
As noted, they all have the Dynamic and Performance packs.
The Performance Pack contributes Performance seats in Diamond Sewn stitch pattern, Performance Active Exhaust and a Jet Suedecloth steering wheel. The Diamond Sew stitch pattern on the front seat backrests and head restraints and on the rear-seat backrests is rendered in Ivory white stich over Ivory
white soft grain leather.
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pk4144 (03-14-2018)
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I was in to see this car yesterday. It is not a clean car. The interior is extremely dirty and looks abused. It is ivory, but looks beige and the white stitching is very dark. It also has a modified exhaust and can't be certified. Imo it is way over priced. I offered them $55K for a car that looks like it has over 40K miles on it. I was very disappointed to see the car in this condition with low mileage. They also replaced the tires and tell me they had cracks. I'm very concerned the mileage indicated is extremely hard miles or may not be true.
Last edited by DGL; 03-14-2018 at 01:05 AM.
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sparky fuze (03-14-2018)
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I was in to see this car yesterday. It is not a clean car. The interior is extremely dirty and looks abused. It is ivory, but looks beige and the white stitching is very dark. It also has a modified exhaust and can't be certified. Imo it is way over priced. I offered them $55K for a car that looks like it has over 40K miles on it. I was very disappointed to see the car in this condition with low mileage. They also replaced the tires and tell me they had cracks. I'm very concerned the mileage indicated is extremely hard miles or may not be true.
Interesting. I liked it more than you do. I am dropping my own car off there tomorrow and will ask about the modified exhaust - I wondered why they hadn't certified it.
But I'm not clear how you'd odometer-fraud a car like this.
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#8
I think odometer-fraud on a 3 year old car is a cake walk for today's security breaching technology.
#9
The Dynamic Pack lowers the car 1cm and upgrades the front uprights & steering geometry, and makes the suspension 30% stiffer. It also includes the Speed Pack, so you get the bodykit and increase in speed limiter to 174 MPH.
The car should come with the Performance Active Exhaust (with a centre crossover replacing the centre mufflers) - that was an option on 2011+ XKRs and was standard on the R-S. If the dealer is saying that's "not standard", they're talking bollocks. However, someone may have put an aftermarket replacement on it.
The car should come with the Performance Active Exhaust (with a centre crossover replacing the centre mufflers) - that was an option on 2011+ XKRs and was standard on the R-S. If the dealer is saying that's "not standard", they're talking bollocks. However, someone may have put an aftermarket replacement on it.
#10
The car's system is proprietary, so it takes a lot of time & work to figure it out. I'm not sure that even the Jag diagnostic tool (SDD) can zero/modify the odometer. And even if you could, there aren't too many people who you could sell it to, so it's not really going to be a big earner. Then there's the Carfax records or DMV records - they would highlight a sudden change in odo reading.
Simpler explanation: the previous owner didn't care about the car and didn't take care of it. There are some people out there who consider cars to be a disposable item. Of course, that may also mean it's been thrashed as well as neglected.
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I was in to see this car yesterday. It is not a clean car. The interior is extremely dirty and looks abused. It is ivory, but looks beige and the white stitching is very dark. It also has a modified exhaust and can't be certified. Imo it is way over priced. I offered them $55K for a car that looks like it has over 40K miles on it. I was very disappointed to see the car in this condition with low mileage. They also replaced the tires and tell me they had cracks. I'm very concerned the mileage indicated is extremely hard miles or may not be true.
#12
FYI, for those interested: they put it up on the rack for me. I drove it. It definitely has a lower, more drone-y note. And yeah that's why they can't certify it. Their cost to replace and return to spec is about $7k. I know there are exhaust experts here, anyone care to offer specific advice?
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sparky fuze (03-14-2018)
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Yellow Bilstein B6 shocks! So it still has the XKR-S / Dynamic pack suspension on it at least.
It looks like they have just removed the rear muffler, the centre section looks original for an XK.
No way in hell it will cost $7k to re-fit a stock rear muffler LOL, here's one for $550 https://www.ebay.com/itm/JAGUAR-XK-M...M/232692771843
It looks like they have just removed the rear muffler, the centre section looks original for an XK.
No way in hell it will cost $7k to re-fit a stock rear muffler LOL, here's one for $550 https://www.ebay.com/itm/JAGUAR-XK-M...M/232692771843
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pk4144 (03-15-2018)
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FYI, for those interested: they put it up on the rack for me. I drove it. It definitely has a lower, more drone-y note. And yeah that's why they can't certify it. Their cost to replace and return to spec is about $7k. I know there are exhaust experts here, anyone care to offer specific advice?
#15
Yellow Bilstein B6 shocks! So it still has the XKR-S / Dynamic pack suspension on it at least.
It looks like they have just removed the rear muffler, the centre section looks original for an XK.
No way in hell it will cost $7k to re-fit a stock rear muffler LOL, here's one for $550 https://www.ebay.com/itm/JAGUAR-XK-M...M/232692771843
It looks like they have just removed the rear muffler, the centre section looks original for an XK.
No way in hell it will cost $7k to re-fit a stock rear muffler LOL, here's one for $550 https://www.ebay.com/itm/JAGUAR-XK-M...M/232692771843
#16
Well for a car in that range from a Jag dealer I'd DEFINITELY want it CPO'd, and they could only do that by rebuilding the entire thing, and they say it's all new from the manifold back. Don't know if that's true. The car has an in-service of May 2015 so if it was CPO'd I'd have three+ years of coverage.
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#18
The car should have come with the Performance Active Exhaust. From the Jaguar USA press release for the Final Fifty:
So, that has to be a cat-back replacement made out of a standard XKR front section and custom rear.
The Performance Pack contributes Performance seats in Diamond Sewn stitch pattern, Performance Active Exhaust and a Jet Suedecloth steering wheel.
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Oh I'm sure the car originally came with Performance Active Exhaust.
According to the GM, and I believe him, they can't CPO it as is. Jaguar will only CPO full-stock cars. Reading between the lines here's what I think the deal is: it was a cash purchase from a relative of the original owner, who's deceased (they also picked up a Bentley). I'm guessing it wasn't until they first put it up on a lift that they saw the exhaust-- and are now realizing they probably overpaid for it.
The one thing I'd say to them is that their advert still lists the car as having the performance exhaust. They've got to be straight with any new owner about that.
According to the GM, and I believe him, they can't CPO it as is. Jaguar will only CPO full-stock cars. Reading between the lines here's what I think the deal is: it was a cash purchase from a relative of the original owner, who's deceased (they also picked up a Bentley). I'm guessing it wasn't until they first put it up on a lift that they saw the exhaust-- and are now realizing they probably overpaid for it.
The one thing I'd say to them is that their advert still lists the car as having the performance exhaust. They've got to be straight with any new owner about that.