XK / XKR ( X150 ) 2006 - 2014

Find the coolant Leak (not a game)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 24, 2024 | 03:11 PM
  #1  
wymjym's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,740
Likes: 1,215
From: near Austin
Default Find the coolant Leak (not a game)

Well, my 2008 xk base (non SC) sprung a leak last week. I ‘knew’ it was the valley hose, @ 2 quarts of coolant puked onto my garage floor after returning from a trip to town. I couldn’t see any leak from up top and underneath the rear under tray was damp and dripping.

Several days later I pulled the intake manifold and low and behold the valley hose was not leaking (but is soft and squishy).

I added some fluid to the reservoir…no leaks…I pressurized the tank to 14 psi and held it at that pressure for @ 30 sec…no leak. I pulled the under engine pan…there was no signs of coolant. The oil pan does have several drops around its circumference but nothing major. I cannot find any tell-tale trails flowing down the engine block, nothing appears wet…running my hands around all hoses does not lead me anywhere.

Where to look next?

Thanks

wj
 
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2024 | 03:15 PM
  #2  
guy's Avatar
guy
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,654
Likes: 1,666
From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Default

Give it a proper pressure test.
 
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2024 | 04:11 PM
  #3  
Cee Jay's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 11,868
Likes: 6,376
From: Kaysville, Utah, US
Default

I thought my valley hoses were leaking but they were not. It was the oil cooler.
 
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2024 | 04:59 PM
  #4  
kj07xk's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 5,301
Likes: 2,570
From: Naperville, Illinois USA
Default

Originally Posted by guy
Give it a proper pressure test.
Agree, 30 seconds isn’t long enough. If the pressure doesn’t appear to drop, leave it on longer, even overnight (I’ve done that).
 
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2024 | 01:37 PM
  #5  
trkyam's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 686
Likes: 227
From: Hawaii
Default

you may need to run the pressure test with a hot engine to show the leaks.
 
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2024 | 02:27 PM
  #6  
RichardS's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,304
Likes: 772
From: Evesham, Worcs, UK
Default

Originally Posted by trkyam
you may need to run the pressure test with a hot engine to show the leaks.
Is that possible? Firstly. you can't remove the expansion tank cap with the engine hot and, secondly, as the temperature drops the pressure will drop and you will have to re-pressurise it until the system is at ambient temperature which is back where we started.

Richard
 
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2024 | 03:29 PM
  #7  
Cee Jay's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 11,868
Likes: 6,376
From: Kaysville, Utah, US
Default

Get a pressure test cap kit.
I don't know if this one fits, it's just an example:
Amazon Pressure Test Kit for Automotive Coolant Amazon Pressure Test Kit for Automotive Coolant




 
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2024 | 04:31 PM
  #8  
wymjym's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,740
Likes: 1,215
From: near Austin
Default

I guess I might need to purchase that tester, thanks for the linkage.
I have crawled around the underside after holding my handheld tested on the tank for 4 minutes (constant pressure from compressor) earlier today, there were no changes, no leaking fluid. Using another approach I added a schrader valve to an old reservoir cap and tried to pump it up, I couldn't build any pressure!
I can see one (1) drop of coolant located above the oil cooler on the base of the engine block. There is a very slight area behind the crank pulley that appears as if it was damp but ever so slightly. I recall that my last oil change 4k miles ago I did have several drops of coolant on the oil cooler. The oil cooler hoses are dry and the cooler only had a couple of drops on it when I dropped the underpans the other day. I guess the question is, could the water pump seal be going out and when the engine was warm it finally burped a bit?
Placing my fingers against the block in that area does not reveal any fluid or moisture, none of the hoses have any signs of fluid ever leaking. I'm asking a friend to stop by and eye ball it.
Since the car has almost 120 k on it I'm inclined to rip it apart a but further tomorrow, anticipating a water pump or thermostat housing issue. If nothing shows itself I'll get the 'real' tester ordered and go from there.

If I hadn't made my valley hose assumption I probably would have already determined the issue since I could bring it up to operating temps.

Life goes on

wj
 
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2024 | 04:34 PM
  #9  
McJag222's Avatar
Veteran Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 1,451
Likes: 857
From: Vancouver BC
Default

I think you could be on the right track with the water pump
 
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2024 | 04:55 PM
  #10  
trkyam's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 686
Likes: 227
From: Hawaii
Default

Water pump or oil cooler pipe behind water pump
or outlet pipe.

Yes you can hook up a pressure test cap then warm
The engine up which may reveal leaks which a cold engine
does not.
 

Last edited by trkyam; Oct 25, 2024 at 04:58 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2024 | 05:58 PM
  #11  
wymjym's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,740
Likes: 1,215
From: near Austin
Default

Originally Posted by trkyam
Water pump or oil cooler pipe behind water pump
or outlet pipe.

Yes you can hook up a pressure test cap then warm
The engine up which may reveal leaks which a cold engine
does not.
No intake!
wj
 
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2024 | 07:05 PM
  #12  
trkyam's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 686
Likes: 227
From: Hawaii
Default

Touché
 
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2024 | 07:04 AM
  #13  
fritzthecat's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 110
Likes: 125
From: Boca Raton, Florida
Default

A few years back I did this with an old reservoir cap to find a leak in a Ford Escape:




Turn the regulator on the air compressor down to zero, plug the air hose on the cap, and then sloooooowly turn up the regulator until you have 5 or 10 PSI. Hard for a leak to hide under those conditions. Most coolant pressure caps blow at about 16 PSI, so I wouldn’t go any higher than that with the air.
 
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2024 | 10:08 AM
  #14  
wymjym's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,740
Likes: 1,215
From: near Austin
Default

currently removing hoses, saw a slight damp spot behind crank pulley...
my previous testing included:


 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Ken D
XK / XKR ( X150 )
20
May 10, 2024 03:28 PM
miami jags
XJ XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR ( X350 & X358 )
2
Nov 24, 2022 03:09 PM
mit2700
S-Type / S type R Supercharged V8 ( X200 )
13
Jul 27, 2019 11:10 AM
jam1white
XK8 / XKR ( X100 )
5
Jun 10, 2014 09:56 AM
hafferf
S-Type / S type R Supercharged V8 ( X200 )
18
Sep 11, 2011 02:01 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:04 PM.