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Old Feb 20, 2020 | 06:04 AM
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Some time ago disconnect the fuse that feeds the pedestrian protection system because in the area where I live it is very common to find you on the road some wild boar.
Since the fuse is removed every time I start the car, the pedestrian protection system alert appears.
I would like to disconnect the airbags under the front hood and connect something to trick the control unit so that I do not get an alarm.
Does anyone know how to do it?
 
Old Feb 20, 2020 | 01:13 PM
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Nobody knows what to do to eliminate the warning of the pedestrian protection system?
 
Old Feb 20, 2020 | 04:28 PM
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Could get into SDD and check the Car Configuration File, see if the option is changeable or not. I don't have the system, so I can't check for you.
 
Old Feb 20, 2020 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
Could get into SDD and check the Car Configuration File, see if the option is changeable or not. I don't have the system, so I can't check for you.
I have read that the steering wheel airbag and dashboard replace them with resistors to simulate their connection.
It would be interesting to know the value of the resistance to connect in the place of each air bag of the front hood
 
Old Feb 20, 2020 | 04:46 PM
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Could get into SDD and check the Car Configuration File, see if the option is changeable or not. I don't have the system, so I can't check for you.
I understand that in the US market. UU. The pedestrian protection system does not have it installed, so I do not think it should be difficult to eliminate or neutralize it in an XK of the 2008 European market.
 
Old Feb 20, 2020 | 10:17 PM
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Find an independent mechanic with the Jaguar/Land Rover SDD (I think) and see if they can reconfigure the auto configuration file.
 
Old Feb 20, 2020 | 11:09 PM
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There is an option in the CCF but it is greyed out so you would need an unlocked version of SDD to change it. The options are True or False.


 
Old Feb 20, 2020 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by u102768
There is an option in the CCF but it is greyed out so you would need an unlocked version of SDD to change it. The options are True or False.

Yep, I had it disabled on both my 2010 XFS and 2010 XFR by an experienced SDD user.
But it needs to be an experienced user with the right SDD gear (and not some cheap Chinese knock-off stuff) who knows what they are doing, otherwise you risk bricking the ECU.
 
Old Feb 21, 2020 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by u102768
There is an option in the CCF but it is greyed out so you would need an unlocked version of SDD to change it. The options are True or False.

Is there a known diagnostic machine capable of being able to enter this menu to enable or disable these parameters?
 
Old Feb 21, 2020 | 03:58 PM
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Bear in mind that what you're attempting may in fact be illegal in Spain. If that's true, someone may not want to be responsible for disabling the Pedestrian Impact System.
 
Old Feb 21, 2020 | 04:12 PM
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Bear in mind that what you're attempting may in fact be illegal in Spain. If that's true, someone may not want to be responsible for disabling the Pedestrian Impact System.
Anything that is modified in a car concerning safety is illegal, whatever the country.
But I think it should be more illegal than the fault of a road safety system that is not able to differentiate a human being from a wild boar destroys your car and it costs you to replace all the airbag of the hood about 7000 euros.
 
Old Feb 21, 2020 | 04:20 PM
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I have already done the crime by disconnecting the fuse.
What I ask is that you don't show me the message on the screen.
 
Old Feb 21, 2020 | 05:17 PM
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resistors to insert instead of the airbags are available from many shops including AliBaba. the risistor value is around 2,1 Ohm, 1W type is used.
 
Old Feb 21, 2020 | 05:22 PM
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I had the system disabled on my XFS and XFR because:
1. I had read a few horror stories of false deployment caused by hitting a pot hole, a speed hump, a badger etc resulting in many $1,000 to repair.
2. Although Australia has strict "safety" rules/laws there isn't one covering pedestrian impact airbags.
3. I have never read of a single instance ever in the history of motoring and pedestrian impacts where this system worked as designed and reduced the severity of injuries to a pedestrian. I believe it is essentially useless and was fitted for one and one reason only - to comply with ill conceived Govt diktats.
 
Old Feb 21, 2020 | 05:30 PM
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The PPS was required for European type rating. BMW 8 series has the same. Its totally ridiculous as it works only between 18 and 49 km/h
there is a directive from Jaguar to place the accels in the front some 20cm more outwards. makes no difference to the warning light problem.
Mine came on one night and the tests show one faulty airbag, the fiber optic sensors and both accels. BS!!!
I have inserted resistors to no avail. it drives me mad!!
cost of replacement of all faulty indicated sensors is some 2500 euro. noway for a useless system. tried various (ex Jaguar) mechanics but no luck. Dealers deny that they can kill the system but I am sure they can. Its illegal though as it invalidates the type rating and so also yr insurance, and hence I understand the dealer position.
but there must be mechanics who are in the know! please come forward the risk and penalty is on us!!
 
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As has been pointed out, the Pedestrian Protection System is a requirement of European Type Approval. It is useless and badly designed BUT disabling it could have extremely serious consequences in the event of an accident where a third part was injured. Both the driver and whoever carried out the modification would be held responsible and the vehicle insurer could deny any liability.

Information posted on the method of disabling the PPS has previously been removed from the forum and it will not be repeated here.

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