Further evidence of rising prices
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Further evidence of rising prices
Looking at ebay XKR listings, this morning, the lowest listed XKR was at a $13,950.00 starting bid, with several in the $18-20K range and several in the $20-25K range. This seems to represent a significant increase from prices just a year ago. Now it may be that this is just a quirk in the listings, but I doubt it. I believe there is an increase in the desirability of these cars and the corresponding increase in pricing. I have seen many 2007's selling for less than 2005-2006's.
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The only problem here is the asking price and the selling price are normally very different.
However I do also feel a well maintained XK8 will remain above 10K and if we wait long enough will see a rise in value. The only problem is with older car, before all the electronics and plastic, are always repairable while our generation of cars will eventually die off due to non replaceable plastic and electronic parts.
However I do also feel a well maintained XK8 will remain above 10K and if we wait long enough will see a rise in value. The only problem is with older car, before all the electronics and plastic, are always repairable while our generation of cars will eventually die off due to non replaceable plastic and electronic parts.
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Most electronic components can actually be repaired and as 3D printing gets cheaper and cheaper, the plastic bits probably won't be much an issue either.
Anything made in the last 30 years is full of plastic bits, and there won't be restoration of any make of car at all without some kind of reasonable cost method of reproducing those pieces. Companies like Eckler won't have a business unless they figure this out.
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According to the paper trail on my 04 XKR that has 20" BBS, Brembo upgrade package, Black Recarro's, and all of the other toys, we have already seen a big upturn. My car was purchased new by a Jag dealer and personally registered to him. It was sold for $25,900 in 2007 to the second owner by the Dealer. That was one big hit for a 3 year old car with 7,000 miles of fun. Remember 07 was the crash and most non necessities went down then. The second owner sold it to me with 14,400 on the clock early last spring and she aged 7 more years without depreciating. In my book the depreciation stopped 8 years ago. I would venture a guess that I wouldn't be looking at a hit if I sold it today. Carnac says "slow rising long term up market on 04 - 06 prime examples".
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rperformance,
I agree with you, but a year or two ago there were many sub-$10,000 cars appearing on a weekly basis. Now, it may be a combination of rising desirability and appreciation and this week's particular batch of cars may be in exceptionally good condition that explains these higher prices.
I bought my car 5 years ago for a little over $15000, i've put an additional 90,000+ miles on it, still looks essentially new and with all that I've done to the car (tensioners, gaskets, etc., supercharger rebuild, tranny solenoids, new hydraulic hoses and ram for the convertible, refinished wheels, repainted front clip,........I could probably still get nearly that amount were I to sell. I wouldn't, of course, but it's a satisfying feeling knowing that it's holding its value.
Interestingly, with regard to my Pantera, a couple of years ago you could purchase a "nuts and bolts" restored car for under $50K. Now those prices have doubled as well. I'm a lucky guy.
I agree with you, but a year or two ago there were many sub-$10,000 cars appearing on a weekly basis. Now, it may be a combination of rising desirability and appreciation and this week's particular batch of cars may be in exceptionally good condition that explains these higher prices.
I bought my car 5 years ago for a little over $15000, i've put an additional 90,000+ miles on it, still looks essentially new and with all that I've done to the car (tensioners, gaskets, etc., supercharger rebuild, tranny solenoids, new hydraulic hoses and ram for the convertible, refinished wheels, repainted front clip,........I could probably still get nearly that amount were I to sell. I wouldn't, of course, but it's a satisfying feeling knowing that it's holding its value.
Interestingly, with regard to my Pantera, a couple of years ago you could purchase a "nuts and bolts" restored car for under $50K. Now those prices have doubled as well. I'm a lucky guy.
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Scroll down the left side of the ebay page and click on "sold listings" to get the actual prices.
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rperformance,
I agree with you, but a year or two ago there were many sub-$10,000 cars appearing on a weekly basis. Now, it may be a combination of rising desirability and appreciation and this week's particular batch of cars may be in exceptionally good condition that explains these higher prices.
I bought my car 5 years ago for a little over $15000, i've put an additional 90,000+ miles on it, still looks essentially new and with all that I've done to the car (tensioners, gaskets, etc., supercharger rebuild, tranny solenoids, new hydraulic hoses and ram for the convertible, refinished wheels, repainted front clip,........I could probably still get nearly that amount were I to sell. I wouldn't, of course, but it's a satisfying feeling knowing that it's holding its value.
Interestingly, with regard to my Pantera, a couple of years ago you could purchase a "nuts and bolts" restored car for under $50K. Now those prices have doubled as well. I'm a lucky guy.
I agree with you, but a year or two ago there were many sub-$10,000 cars appearing on a weekly basis. Now, it may be a combination of rising desirability and appreciation and this week's particular batch of cars may be in exceptionally good condition that explains these higher prices.
I bought my car 5 years ago for a little over $15000, i've put an additional 90,000+ miles on it, still looks essentially new and with all that I've done to the car (tensioners, gaskets, etc., supercharger rebuild, tranny solenoids, new hydraulic hoses and ram for the convertible, refinished wheels, repainted front clip,........I could probably still get nearly that amount were I to sell. I wouldn't, of course, but it's a satisfying feeling knowing that it's holding its value.
Interestingly, with regard to my Pantera, a couple of years ago you could purchase a "nuts and bolts" restored car for under $50K. Now those prices have doubled as well. I'm a lucky guy.
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XK8 prices
I bought my 2003 4.2 Convertible in November 2014 from a Dealer in Autotrader which was advertised as the cheapest XK8 4.2 Convertible in the country !
Well, after noticing the oil leak from the diff and the rust in the nearside floor pan I still managed to knock £500 from this price as long as I agreed to get this fixed myself(the 3 month warranty probably would'nt be worth the paper it's written on). In conclusion, I don't really care how much it's worth as long as it stays reliable and I don't have to spend to much money on her.
Well, after noticing the oil leak from the diff and the rust in the nearside floor pan I still managed to knock £500 from this price as long as I agreed to get this fixed myself(the 3 month warranty probably would'nt be worth the paper it's written on). In conclusion, I don't really care how much it's worth as long as it stays reliable and I don't have to spend to much money on her.
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Selling a car is not magic. If you want a set price and you don't stick to your guns, it won't be long before others follow suit.
Unless you just need the money, and you have a good car (no hidden flaws) stick to your asking price and once folks shop around and see the conditions of some cars offered (as mentioned above) they will come to your terms. Just don't try to get top dollar for a car that will require hundreds or thousands of dollars to get road ready.
If we all do this, the market prices will climb. Two many of us give our cars away on a trade to a dealer, because we just have to have that one that's two years younger. So the dealer can sell our old car for pennies to the dollar and still make a profit.
Unless you just need the money, and you have a good car (no hidden flaws) stick to your asking price and once folks shop around and see the conditions of some cars offered (as mentioned above) they will come to your terms. Just don't try to get top dollar for a car that will require hundreds or thousands of dollars to get road ready.
If we all do this, the market prices will climb. Two many of us give our cars away on a trade to a dealer, because we just have to have that one that's two years younger. So the dealer can sell our old car for pennies to the dollar and still make a profit.
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