Green Shower :'( Would I be able to latch manually with the forum's SoP?
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Green Shower :'( Would I be able to latch manually with the forum's SoP?
Hello all!
It's been a long time. For years I've just been enjoying the hell out of taking my car out in the summers..but this afternoon when trying to put my top up, it stopped working. I tried it again (bad mistake, i am aware..) then shut the car off, to see the pool of green oil accumulating at the rear right of the car. Thanks to y'all I knew what it was. Luckily it was while SHUTTING my top, so I can still enjoy her on nice days.
Estimate is $2k, and even at half that I don't want to fix it if the manual fix can work.
The only thing I'm worried about is when I went to look at the reservoir, both front hose connections were in tact and water-right. It was a hose in the back of the pump that was severed. It's currently sitting in an empty bottle to pick up any remnants.
The procedure that Dennis07 created only involves sealing up the two visible ports. If I plug those two up and try to engage manually, will the remaining fluid just pump out the open hose?
It's been a long time. For years I've just been enjoying the hell out of taking my car out in the summers..but this afternoon when trying to put my top up, it stopped working. I tried it again (bad mistake, i am aware..) then shut the car off, to see the pool of green oil accumulating at the rear right of the car. Thanks to y'all I knew what it was. Luckily it was while SHUTTING my top, so I can still enjoy her on nice days.
Estimate is $2k, and even at half that I don't want to fix it if the manual fix can work.
The only thing I'm worried about is when I went to look at the reservoir, both front hose connections were in tact and water-right. It was a hose in the back of the pump that was severed. It's currently sitting in an empty bottle to pick up any remnants.
The procedure that Dennis07 created only involves sealing up the two visible ports. If I plug those two up and try to engage manually, will the remaining fluid just pump out the open hose?
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Skippy,
The procedure for capping the latch ports won't help you here. The hose that has failed is one of ram hoses that raise and lower the top.
The good news is that this is a much easier repair than replacing latch hoses. A few hundred $$ if you can DIY.
If you don't fix it, you'll have to use the manual method any time you want to raise or lower the top (see link in preceding post). Not easy; not fun.
The procedure for capping the latch ports won't help you here. The hose that has failed is one of ram hoses that raise and lower the top.
The good news is that this is a much easier repair than replacing latch hoses. A few hundred $$ if you can DIY.
If you don't fix it, you'll have to use the manual method any time you want to raise or lower the top (see link in preceding post). Not easy; not fun.
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Skippy,
The procedure for capping the latch ports won't help you here. The hose that has failed is one of ram hoses that raise and lower the top.
The good news is that this is a much easier repair than replacing latch hoses. A few hundred $$ if you can DIY.
If you don't fix it, you'll have to use the manual method any time you want to raise or lower the top (see link in preceding post). Not easy; not fun.
The procedure for capping the latch ports won't help you here. The hose that has failed is one of ram hoses that raise and lower the top.
The good news is that this is a much easier repair than replacing latch hoses. A few hundred $$ if you can DIY.
If you don't fix it, you'll have to use the manual method any time you want to raise or lower the top (see link in preceding post). Not easy; not fun.
thanks!
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Skippy, if you can't do by this, give up. LOL
This is the Jon/Wayne Manual.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...cement-140688/
Wayne
This is the Jon/Wayne Manual.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...cement-140688/
Wayne
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Skippy,
The procedure for capping the latch ports won't help you here. The hose that has failed is one of ram hoses that raise and lower the top.
The good news is that this is a much easier repair than replacing latch hoses. A few hundred $$ if you can DIY.
If you don't fix it, you'll have to use the manual method any time you want to raise or lower the top (see link in preceding post). Not easy; not fun.
The procedure for capping the latch ports won't help you here. The hose that has failed is one of ram hoses that raise and lower the top.
The good news is that this is a much easier repair than replacing latch hoses. A few hundred $$ if you can DIY.
If you don't fix it, you'll have to use the manual method any time you want to raise or lower the top (see link in preceding post). Not easy; not fun.
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Skippy, if you can't do by this, give up. LOL
This is the Jon/Wayne Manual.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...cement-140688/
Wayne
This is the Jon/Wayne Manual.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...cement-140688/
Wayne
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Careful here! When lowering the top manually it's possible to damage things. See the link from Motorcarman earlier in this thread.
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There is a section of frame that CAMS-OVER and LOCKS. The lift/lower rams push/pull on this joint to lock/unlock.
You need to push in and down from the outside or pull on the same spot that the rams PULL DOWN on to unlock the frame or you will bend the living $h!t out of it!!!!!!!!!!!!
bob
You need to push in and down from the outside or pull on the same spot that the rams PULL DOWN on to unlock the frame or you will bend the living $h!t out of it!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Skippy, if you can't do by this, give up. LOL
This is the Jon/Wayne Manual.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...cement-140688/
Wayne
This is the Jon/Wayne Manual.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...cement-140688/
Wayne
Stupid wuestion..but there’s no way to just reconnect the line eh?
I’m really considering just replacing the four lines when I’m up north so my car-savvy brother-in-law can help out. Could I just replace the one hose to save some money?? I couldn’t find that option on top hydraulics. 
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using repair kit is not advisable- you can get better quality, higher pressure rated replacement RAM hoses for about 400 from either Cabriolet Hydrauics (I used them) or Tophydraulics - several members have had great success with them.
If the RAMs are leaking, tophydraulics can rebuild
It is not a difficult job to replace the RAM hoses
If the RAMs are leaking, tophydraulics can rebuild
It is not a difficult job to replace the RAM hoses
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^^ Agreed - do this right, and you will only have to do it ONCE. Do not attempt to piecemeal a repair - you will later regret it when you have to tear it down and do it all over again....
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Here is is what I plan on ordering, this right? https://www.tophydraulicsinc.com/en/...nes-hoses.html
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Skippy, Don't see where you say what year your car is. If in question,you need to pull the panel next to the passenger side and look at the bottom of the ram to see which connection is going to work for you. If the clip kind, don't lose that clip, does not come with the hoses.
Now, what you are ordering is the full hose kit.. Two go to the rams and two go up front to the latch. So you will have enough for the whole job, even if the latch is a later project.
Wayne
Now, what you are ordering is the full hose kit.. Two go to the rams and two go up front to the latch. So you will have enough for the whole job, even if the latch is a later project.
Wayne
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Skippy, Don't see where you say what year your car is. If in question,you need to pull the panel next to the passenger side and look at the bottom of the ram to see which connection is going to work for you. If the clip kind, don't lose that clip, does not come with the hoses.
Now, what you are ordering is the full hose kit.. Two go to the rams and two go up front to the latch. So you will have enough for the whole job, even if the latch is a later project.
Wayne
Now, what you are ordering is the full hose kit.. Two go to the rams and two go up front to the latch. So you will have enough for the whole job, even if the latch is a later project.
Wayne
My bad, it’s a 2001 XKR. So I’d want the full set of six then, the $600 set? At first I thought you meant the $1,000 set..and I don’t need to spend that this summer
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My bad, I just read your message more fully..it's tough to do research on my phone while I'm pretending to work :P
Aren't there six hoses total: 4 to the rams and 2 to the front latch? that's what I'm gathering from the choices of purchases (https://www.tophydraulicsinc.com/en/...nes-hoses.html)
I thought this six hose set would be the 'full' set: https://www.tophydraulicsinc.com/en/...nes-hoses.html
Aren't there six hoses total: 4 to the rams and 2 to the front latch? that's what I'm gathering from the choices of purchases (https://www.tophydraulicsinc.com/en/...nes-hoses.html)
I thought this six hose set would be the 'full' set: https://www.tophydraulicsinc.com/en/...nes-hoses.html
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You are right, I was thinking it would be cheaper to get them at the same time. So the four hose set is only for the rear and that job is simple when you have the hoses in hand and the rams are OK. Less than a day and you will be able to put it back together from memory. We were a couple of weeks apart and at our age you can see why we wrote it up so thoroughly.
Sorry to put a panic on you, just dealing with a wife that can't put one foot on the ground.
Wayne
Sorry to put a panic on you, just dealing with a wife that can't put one foot on the ground.
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You are right, I was thinking it would be cheaper to get them at the same time. So the four hose set is only for the rear and that job is simple when you have the hoses in hand and the rams are OK. Less than a day and you will be able to put it back together from memory. We were a couple of weeks apart and at our age you can see why we wrote it up so thoroughly.
Sorry to put a panic on you, just dealing with a wife that can't put one foot on the ground.
Wayne
Sorry to put a panic on you, just dealing with a wife that can't put one foot on the ground.
Wayne
So for just the rear 4 hoses (I’m assuming the rams are okay..thats the gamble but I’ll take the risk) I’ll only need to:
lower convertible top (already lowered)
rear seat bottom/back removal
side panel cover removal
frame reinforcement bars
speaker enclosure removal
Trunk carpet/side
unmount pump
from there I should be able to access everything I need to replace the rear 4 and connect them to the pump/Rams. I won’t need to deal with the front seats right?
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OK, you got it.
Taking the seats out will give you room to work, but all the way forward may do it for a younger than me person, 78.
The clip behind the drivers side shelf is hard to find, be aware. The foam covering the hole into the cabin may crumble and all the cable shells (covering) will be all over the place. Wait until the old hoses are out then vacuum it all up.
If you have fluid under the rams, don't take a chance, get them rebuilt.
PM me a phone number and time, if you want to talk, don't figure on going anywhere for a week or so.
Wayne
Taking the seats out will give you room to work, but all the way forward may do it for a younger than me person, 78.
The clip behind the drivers side shelf is hard to find, be aware. The foam covering the hole into the cabin may crumble and all the cable shells (covering) will be all over the place. Wait until the old hoses are out then vacuum it all up.
If you have fluid under the rams, don't take a chance, get them rebuilt.
PM me a phone number and time, if you want to talk, don't figure on going anywhere for a week or so.
Wayne
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